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Does hundreds of religions mean there really isnt a god? Does hundreds of religions mean there really isnt a god?

02-10-2010 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyDiamonds
Dude...just stop.
Joey, you actually do seem to have a lot of experience with different religions and appear to actually have given these ideas some thought. Yet you insist on mostly just throwing out one liners. Here a poster laid out a hypothesis on how belief in Gods formed initially. Your reply was that he had a lot to learn. That implies that you have an alternative hypothesis, and that you may have sources. My suggestion was instead of throwing out an empty one-liner, tell him your hypothesis, provide your sources, share a little knowledge. That's what we're here for, and that's what makes these discussions so interesting. If you truly don't feel that you have anything to share then yes, tell me and I'll stop trying to prod you into making better posts since it would be futile.
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02-10-2010 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
Joey, you actually do seem to have a lot of experience with different religions and appear to actually have given these ideas some thought. Yet you insist on mostly just throwing out one liners. Here a poster laid out a hypothesis on how belief in Gods formed initially. Your reply was that he had a lot to learn. That implies that you have an alternative hypothesis, and that you may have sources. My suggestion was instead of throwing out an empty one-liner, tell him your hypothesis, provide your sources, share a little knowledge. That's what we're here for, and that's what makes these discussions so interesting. If you truly don't feel that you have anything to share then yes, tell me and I'll stop trying to prod you into making better posts since it would be futile.
you are wasting your time
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02-10-2010 , 12:16 AM
I did one year of a BA in Biblical Theology*, and one of the first things one of our lecturers told us was that if Earth had had two moons, or none, the history of religion would likely have been radically different.

*(µbrag: Maiden Speaker Prize, Dublin University Theological Society, 1999 Competition was not stiff.)
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02-10-2010 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
Joey, you actually do seem to have a lot of experience with different religions and appear to actually have given these ideas some thought. Yet you insist on mostly just throwing out one liners. Here a poster laid out a hypothesis on how belief in Gods formed initially. Your reply was that he had a lot to learn. That implies that you have an alternative hypothesis, and that you may have sources. My suggestion was instead of throwing out an empty one-liner, tell him your hypothesis, provide your sources, share a little knowledge. That's what we're here for, and that's what makes these discussions so interesting. If you truly don't feel that you have anything to share then yes, tell me and I'll stop trying to prod you into making better posts since it would be futile.
No one here thinks that is what you are doing...it's obvious what you are doing and it gets old. Go play with your new infant and stop stirring up things for no reason.
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02-10-2010 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dying Actors
you are wasting your time
(Thinking to myself: probably, but maybe not, I really do think Joey has something to offer.)


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Originally Posted by JoeyDiamonds
No one here thinks that is what you are doing...it's obvious what you are doing and it gets old. Go play with your new infant and stop stirring up things for no reason.
Sigh.
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02-10-2010 , 01:09 AM
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02-10-2010 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
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There's always someone has to spoil it for the rest of the class...

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02-10-2010 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
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02-10-2010 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
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Almost gave up on this because I couldn't believe xnxx would be a reasonable start to any message but then the 32s at regular intervals caught my eye:

Spoiler:
"xnxx.com is my favorite porn site. What's yours?"

You know, I'm not very accomplished in the pornographic arts, I mostly just put female names followed by "nude" into google image search and see what comes up.


and now my pony's slow too
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02-10-2010 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyDiamonds
Wow.... you have a lot to learn, my friend.
Not sure what inspired your comment but I sure you’re right. I do have a lot to learn.
Perhaps you would be kind enough to reveal any resources that you feel may be helpful at getting me to any facts that would enlighten me on this matter.
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02-10-2010 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by EvilSteve
Almost gave up on this because I couldn't believe xnxx would be a reasonable start to any message but then the 32s at regular intervals caught my eye:
Dude, seriously. You're working too hard.

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02-10-2010 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dying Actors
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02-10-2010 , 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
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02-10-2010 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Oh the old atheist double standard. Let me say any ole thing I want in the spirit of Sam Harris's conversational intolerance but the moment a theist says anything pointed recoil and go all self righteous.

Its obvious. If you make a new religion up what about the old eternal promises? Is the new religion going to be able to make statements about heaven that are backed by people claiming to be witnesses? Is it going to put up any martyrs willing to stand by and die for the truth of their testimony?
What is sam Harris's conversational intolerance? He encourages people to have conversations and discuss things. To look and discuss religions with the same critical eye we do everything else. That's the opposite of intolerance. Its the encouragement of conversation. The more you write about people who you've likely never read their works, the more things you get completely wrong.

Time to post an unrelated link.
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02-10-2010 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Lol...Attempting to correct atheist flawed thinking and mischaracterizations of religion is like helping someone who's drowning. It's dangerous. The drowning person is in such a bad state you have to be careful they don't drown you, too. A bold statement or two is to be expected.
Splendour gives another nuanced argument with a metaphor about why she wouldn't help a drowning person. But its atheists with flawed thinking.

I can't think of a greater champion for atheism then splenda.
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02-10-2010 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
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02-10-2010 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
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Eh... thanks for sharing.
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02-10-2010 , 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dying Actors
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@ILOVEPoker, lol thats gross
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02-10-2010 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by VPIP100
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@ILOVEPoker, lol thats gross
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02-10-2010 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by VPIP100
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pitiful onslaught sir

it could be countered with phyligers gambit by a complete noob
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02-10-2010 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn

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02-10-2010 , 08:10 AM
lol discussion.

The only conclusion you can draw from having so many religions is that it would be very, very arrogant to think that youre religion is actually the one, the best, etc. Some religions have one god, others have more than 10. Take youre pick.

Little secret: there is no god.
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02-10-2010 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
If you make a new religion up what about the old eternal promises? Is the new religion going to be able to make statements about heaven that are backed by people claiming to be witnesses? Is it going to put up any martyrs willing to stand by and die for the truth of their testimony?
These things happen fairly regularly. People invent some new crap belief and then convince others (and on a few occassions even themselves) that they have to die for the truth.

In the end, all that matters is that jumping off a plane doesn't make your parachute safer. It's a dumb theological argument to claim it does.
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02-10-2010 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
These things happen fairly regularly. People invent some new crap belief and then convince others (and on a few occassions even themselves) that they have to die for the truth.

In the end, all that matters is that jumping off a plane doesn't make your parachute safer. It's a dumb theological argument to claim it does.
Except that in Christianity...I can't speak for other religions....its not an invention its a witness. Also Christians martyrs didn't "seek" death the way some cultists do....they "met" it in defense of their personal witness.
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02-10-2010 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Except that in Christianity...I can't speak for other religions....its not an invention its a witness. Also Christians martyrs didn't "seek" death the way some cultists do....they "met" it in defense of their personal witness.
Well, I fail to see the difference between your witnesses and the witnesses of animal spirit worship, except they deliver a slightly different message. I also think your martyrs are of pretty much the exact same ilk as the martyrs of other religions.

I understand that it probably doesn't seem that way to you, because you happen to believe in your religion and not all those other ones.
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