No god in buddhism, no myth, more analysis, room for any "scientific" explanation of anything.

This +1000.

It's obviously in every religions best interest to promote themselves and not other religions.

I don't "look down" on Christianity. I meet with equal skepticism all supernatural claims, no matter where they derive.

I can't speak for Mahanyana or Theravada much, but I can say that supernatural aspects being discussed are being a bit overemphasized. As far as Zen Buddhism goes, it's about as unimposing as any idea or philosophy I have ever encountered. The only thing I can say about Zen is that I have said too much.





First off, there is no self to get rid of, and that doesnt mean what you think it means. And, only those who practice Theravada would advocate denying pleasure. It is called the Middle Way because you are centered. You are balanced, not through your own will, but because to one who is awakened, it comes naturally.

Then those are the ones i would disagree with.

Buddhism in 2500 years history had so many forms, teachers and offsets, that everything you say about Buddhism is true. Some radical forms like Zen (or some zen masters) even contradict Buddha and all buddhist canon.

I would like to hear more about this. Obviously, some masters will have seemingly radical views, but would you say that the majority of Zen masters condradict Buddha's core teachings? If so, how?

Buddha himself did say to only come to conclusions based on your own reasoning and experience, and that it applied to his teachings as well.

Many of new zen students coming to zen masters were formerly buddhist monks dissatisfied with their progress.
Common practice in traditional buddhism was mechanic repeated sutras several hours in day and worship of Buddha.
Zen masters having difficult job return mental zombies to life often chose shock therapy, they banned even thought about buddha and often declared Buddha and his lore as unwanted and confusing .

"The stoic bears, the Epicurean seeks to enjoy, the Buddhist and the Hindu stand apart disillusioned, the Muslim submits, but only the Christian exalts."

- E. Stanley Jones

Do you guys "look down" on Buddhism same as Christianity?


I do not look down on anyone's beliefs. How can I ask others to respect by beliefs if I do not respect theirs?

So you respect white supremacists beliefs? Like if i said all non whites should be slaves to whites you would respect that belief?

I have but only one word for the jump in topic you just took _ WOW!!!

Right. You dont respect some beliefs.

You don't seem to understand that you can respect a person without respecting his beliefs.

Tolerance isn't a strong sign of virtue like you seem to think.

Am I suppose to be so tolerant of your beliefs I let you do anything even if it may not be good for you?

Not all beliefs are equal. Tolerance is just a buzz word to force someone into accepting that they are.

You dont seem to understand i understand that. I was specifically talking about respecting beliefs. I dont respect some beliefs. Please dont move my goalposts.


Yeah i agree tolerance and turning the other cheek towards someones beliefs is bad sometimes. Which is why i dont respect all beliefs.

Tolerance is in opposition to purity and unity. You can't have peace without purity and unity.

Tolerance fosters conforming to the world but Christians are only to conform to Jesus Christ.

Tolerance is luke warm.

The Meaning of the Word, "Laodicea"

The word "Laodicea has two meanings. One meaning refers to the spiritual condition of the Church. The other is about its historical destiny. This is true of the Church of Laodicea. The word "Laodicea", like the Church of Thyatira, is formed from two Greek words. These words are laoV, which means "people", and dikazo, which can mean either a personal opinion or a decree, i.e. a sentence, given by a judge. Therefore, we find that the word "Laodicea" can mean both "people's opinions" or "people judged".

People today are living in a "Laodicean" Age. Jesus said "To him who overcomes, I will grant to sit with Me on My throne...".

You don't overcome the world by conforming to it when the world peer pressures you with buzz words.

Who you gonna listen to? God or every person with an opinion that he probably had forced on him by the world?

You know God doesn't brain wash people nearly as much as people do via tv and radio. Most people only spend an hour a week at church versus 15 to 20 a week in front of the boob tube.

What do you consider "the world"?

Sorry I don't do definitions.

I'm just a humble bible student and not a devotee of philosophy. If I were a philosophy student I would over analyze everything and miss out on the key verses that God is saying to me.

Like this one:

Proverbs 9:

6Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding.

7He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and he that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot.

8Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.

9Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.


Most atheists use their philosophy in the guise of questions to get on the road of mockery. It's a ruse to lead people down a road a really wise person wouldn't want to take.