Got it.

I don't got it. Could you please explain his response? I would ask him to explain and his own post, but he will refuse to do that. If he did actually clarify what he means at some point, , he might unwittingly appear to be using reasoning, and that would ruin his whole schtick.

Short answer: craig1120 is here to bloviate, not to engage in any meaningful discussion.

Chucky, I'm a rational agnostic. Don't mess with craig. I've been around long enough to know he'll f**k you up.

Hard to imagine someone with such a high-quality post like the above could get banned after a mere eight career posts.

Okay, Koresh.

It would be wise not to underestimate a post count. I'm BOS, so, take that as you will.

religion are still successful because god cant be disprove.
Even if they cant prove god (or gods...) exist , they will lean on the fact it cant be disprove so its good enough for them to believe in it.
doesnt take much to make them happy and obedient , as long its something they like.

people dont believe they can fly because they know better, so they stop believing in it.

i personally do not care they believe in it or not, what bother me its to force me live and take decision on what they believe , not caring about what i believe...
freakn facist.

Why do you believe that? Do you really think that religion is still successful only because God can't be disproved?

Who is "they"? I'm a Christian, and your characterization certainly doesn't apply to me.

While that's certainly true for many religious folks, as it is also true for many nonreligious folks. Seems to be more an observation about the human condition in general, rather than an argument against religion per se. I guess it's a truism that people often believe things because it makes them happy. Has nothing to do uniquely with religious belief, though.

I don't personally know anybody who ever thought they could fly. Do you?

I don't understand where this reference to fascism came from. I will go on record as being someone who is decidedly opposed to fascism.

Thank you for joining us here in RGT, Montrealcorp.

Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market place, and cried incessantly: "I seek God! I seek God!" -- As many of those who did not believe in God were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter. Has he got lost? asked one. Did he lose his way like a child? asked another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? emigrated? -- Thus they yelled and laughed.

The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. "Whither is God?" he cried; "I will tell you. We have killed him -- you and I. All of us are his murderers. But how did we do this? How could we drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us? Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning? Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.

"How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us -- for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto."

Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners; and they, too, were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, and it broke into pieces and went out. "I have come too early," he said then; "my time is not yet. This tremendous event is still on its way, still wandering; it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time; the light of the stars requires time; deeds, though done, still require time to be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than most distant stars -- and yet they have done it themselves.

It has been related further that on the same day the madman forced his way into several churches and there struck up his requiem aeternam deo. Led out and called to account, he is said always to have replied nothing but: "What after all are these churches now if they are not the tombs and sepulchers of God?"

You aren't taking into account that him being here typing away keeps him away from actually doing something with his life and away from actual human contact. This purgatory has always been offered by the 2+2 forums in service to humanity.

What you (presumably you are not an inmate) get in return is the chance to gawk and poke at the inmates at your leisure.

I don't understand your reasoning. I probably spend less than twenty-minutes a day "typing away" here. How can you properly infer from that that I am doing nothing with my life and that I shun actual human contact?

I actually have a full life and engage the public on a regular basis.

People like Lagtight should be denied positions and platforms of influence, but snuffing them out completely is not the solution.

This is a dying forum? Then this is exactly the forum where people like Lagtight should be allowed to share the evil that is in their heart.

Your worries are unfounded. He has no realistic chance* of influencing anyone.

*I'm being generous in implying that there is an unrealistic chance.

I’m not worried about that. More concerned with the people who demand censorship of dying forums.

I was going to ask you to clarify specifically what you meant by the bolded above. But then I remembered that you are an admitted staunch opponent of clarity and rationality.

Just your personality. Seems sufficient evidence to infer quite a lot just from being banned. Being banned and then coming back makes it a slam dunk that one isn't blessed (in the personality department or otherwise).


That isn't a believable claim.

Doesn't seem like much to be concerned about either way. At least not relative to anything at all one could be concerned with. For instance, right now there is probably a restaurant that ran out of chick peas (used as garnishes in their house salads) less than 2000 miles from your current location. That is far more concerning.

I was banned by a moderator in the Politics&Society Forum. The Mods there have a hatred for Biblical truth.

Sure it is. Although you can certainly choose not to believe it. What you believe about me is of no consequence to me; probably no more than what I believe about you is of any consequence to you.

I don't disagree.

I said "forum," not "subforum." It is interesting that people (as I described above) always have a "reason" for the ban that is external to them. This is despite it virtually always being an internal personality flaw or flaws*, not the external factor they choose to believe it is.

I choose in the same way as I choose to believe that two and two make four.

If I were of the belief that my beliefs about you were consequential, I'd have chosen my words more carefully.

*Usually the plural is correct.

I acknowledge that my ban was a "team effort" I like preaching biblical truth, and at least one of the mods there didn't like me doing that. I many times ignored their "cease and desist" orders and I finally got the banhammer. I don't disagree with their decision. All posters here are essentially guests of 2+2. 2+2 gets to set the rules; they can allow or disallow anything they want for any reason they want.

The amount of trivialization and snark you allow yourself here on RGT may have been justifiable at an earlier time, but I can tell you sincerely that you are not above the topics being discussed here.

There always be irrational people believing in stuff that isn’t true .
Believing in Santa Claus’s is an example.
Kids are not known to be very rational individuals
Hence religion won’t die .

They = all religious practitioners.

Yes I know nobody who thinks they can fly because no one can , unless they wish to die.
Death is a pretty good reason no to believe in it , in the real world .
Believing wrongly into god do not have the same consequences , much easier to believe in it since no harm can happen.

Yes I misspoke about fascism , I should specify totalitarian thinking instead -> theocracy.