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06-20-2012 , 10:12 AM

#201

asdfasdf32

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Originally Posted by BeaucoupFish

I've heard of these many hundreds or thousands of so-called prophecies, OP looked like (s)he was actually starting to list some, but stopped at one.
So, what are the "best", say 5-10 prophecies?

Also, here's a link to one of DPRJones's vids that includes some graphic but sobering images of regional flood tragedies, that give an idea just how tragic and destructive something like a global flood would have been (had it actualy happened), and hint at the cruelty and devastation involved (flood footage starts at 9:45, but the whole video is good).

[video=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RRKi6yoYwaI#t=58 5s[/video]

(hmmm...how do you embed video?)

As far a prophecies, there aren't any valid/strong ones. Here's a recent thread on the topic: Name 5 prophecies that the bible made that have been fulfilled.

As far as embedding youtube videos, the format is:

[y0utube]copy and paste all the info AFTER the = in the youtube title[/y0utube]

(Just quote this post if your still unsure to see the format)

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06-21-2012 , 04:36 PM

#202

STJEAN81

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Originally Posted by Alter2Ego

ALTER2EGO to- MALEFIICUS:

What makes you think my info is intended to convert or convince unbelievers? I personally consider atheists to be lost causes. I've debated dozens of atheists at other websites, and that's what I came away with. Atheists don't care about evidence pointing to the existence of an intelligent God. They don't want to see that. They will reject it because it interferes with their religious beliefs--the religion of Atheism. These are the same people that argue for evolution theory for which the fossils record says it never happened. In other words, when presented with evidence of God, they reject it. When presented with NO EVIDENCE of evolution, they accept that.

In any event, since you've flattered yourself into thinking your hide is worth the effort of me knocking myself out trying to convert you, go back and read all my posts that say "ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE." You do understand the meaning of the word "everyone;" don't you? It means believers and unbelievers and therefore the intent is not to convert but to inform.

BTW: If you don't care for the info I post in my threads, you can always stay out of my threads. Did that ever occur to you?

It's absolutely amazing how much you are describing your own mad logic here. Almost to the point where you can replace 'atheists' with your own name.

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06-21-2012 , 04:41 PM

#203

STJEAN81

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Originally Posted by Dominic

lol...this person can't be serious. Please please please admit you're just trolling us. I can't believe there are actually people with your distorted thought process walking around and living a normal life.

I haven't been able to get this exact thought out of my head since I discovered this area of 2p2 2 days ago.
It is truly unbelievable. As it turns out, it appears he is certainly not alone.

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06-21-2012 , 04:44 PM

#204

gskowal

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lost cause... Since his/her post #1 could tell that...

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06-21-2012 , 04:46 PM

#205

STJEAN81

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Originally Posted by Splendour

Not sure what you mean.

But you could count the whole human race from the beginning of time until now as all being a generation from Adam.

We can get snagged today on wrong interpretations if we don't seek the real or deeper meaning of the bible.

LOL please don't tell me you truly honestly believe in Adam and Eve?

YOU'RE A GROWN ASS MAN!! Come on man, snap back to reality

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06-21-2012 , 05:04 PM

#206

asdfasdf32

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Originally Posted by STJEAN81

LOL please don't tell me you truly honestly believe in Adam and Eve?

YOU'RE A GROWN ASS MAN!! Come on man, snap back to reality

Just FYI, both Alter2Ego and Splendour are women.

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06-21-2012 , 05:14 PM

#207

STJEAN81

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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32

Just FYI, both Alter2Ego and Splendour are women.

Oops, my bad.....

YOU ARE A GROWN ASS WOMAN!! Come on

Just an ounce of common sense, that's all I ask. Secret gardens and talking serpents, where do we draw the line?

We are talking Narnia **** now.

Wait a sec, what if God produced Narnia....oh fk I just blew my mind.

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06-21-2012 , 06:16 PM

#208

Alter2Ego

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Originally Posted by zumby

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“And I will make you [Tyre] like the top of a rock: you shall be a place to spread nets on, and shall be built no more: for I the Lord have spoken it, saith the Lord God.” - Ezekiel 26:14

“I will make you a terror, and you shall be no more: though you will be sought, you shall never be found again, saith the Lord God.” - Ezekiel 26:21

Tyre, today

ALTER2EGO -to- ZUMBY:

You failed again to dispute the accuracy of Bible prophecy. Ancient Tyre no longer exists. You have presented a photograph of a modern city that is built on land—land that is part of a cape created by Alexander the Great where the island of ancient Tyre once existed.

BTW: I plan to do a post on the prophecy of Tyre sometime in the near future.

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06-21-2012 , 06:32 PM

#209

Alter2Ego

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Originally Posted by zumby

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“I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." - Matthew 16:28

“And he said to them, "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God come with power." - Mark 9:1

"I tell you the truth, this generationwill certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.” Luke 21:32

The disciples all died before Jesus returned.

ALTER2EGO –to- ZUMBY:

FALSE: They did indeed see a prophetic vision of him in kingdom power.

By the way, you're repeating the same prophecy at Matthew 16:28 and Mark 9:1, which was told from the viewpoint of two of Jesus' apostles. This prophecy was fulfilled six days after Jesus gave it when his apostles witnessed his transfiguration at Matthew 17:1-9 (which I suggest you read). That event was a vision of Jesus coming into kingdom power, at the approval of Jehovah whose voice was heard during Jesus' transfiguration.

"While he [Peter] was yet speaking, look! A bright cloud overshadowed them, and, look! A voice out of the cloud, saying: 'This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved; listen to him.' " (Matthew 17:5)

Following his transfiguration, Jesus instructed his apostles who had witnessed the event, as follows.

"And as they were descending from the mountain, Jesus commanded them, saying: 'Tell the vision to on one until the Son of man is raised up from the dead.' " (Matthew 17:9)

Whenever people in the Bible saw visions, these tended to be prophetically telling or foreseeing—in symbolic manner—future events. Following his transfiguration, Jesus instructed his apostles who had witnessed the event, as follows.

"And as they were descending from the mountain, Jesus commanded them, saying: 'Tell the vision to on one until the Son of man is raised up from the dead.' " (Matthew 17:9)

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06-21-2012 , 06:34 PM

#210

zumby

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Ancient Egypt doesn't exist anymore either but it doesn't mean there's no Egypt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyre,_Lebanon

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06-21-2012 , 06:44 PM

#211

Alter2Ego

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Originally Posted by zumby

"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation." - Matthew 25:33-36

ALTER2EGO –to- ZUMBY:

If your point is that this never happened, then you are again FALSE. This actually occurred, just as Jesus Christ prophesied.

"At this they gave heed to him, and they summoned the apostles, flogged them, and ordered them to stop speaking upon the basis of Jesus' name, and let them go." (Acts 5:40)

Several of Jesus' disciples were executed. For example, Stephen was stoned to death at Acts 7:59-60. Saul (who later became the Apostle Paul) and others, hunted down Jesus' followers from town to town.

"Saul, for his part, was approving the murder of him [Stephen]. On that day great persecution arose against the congregation that was in Jerusalem; all except the apostles were scattered throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria." (Acts 8:1; also read Acts 8:2-4)

In case you haven't figured it out, I debunked all the scriptures you presented for which erroneously claimed they were false prophecies. Feel free to present more, and I will examine them and get back to you.

BTW: None of what you quoted in this section is found at Matthew 25:33-36. You got your scriptures wrong.

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