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02-23-2009 , 05:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCYp7ulGtoQ (Some NSFW language)

Discuss.

Here's the other video he references:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JHS8adO3hM
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02-23-2009 , 05:55 PM
I enjoyed it. And he is right, if we can all at least be civil life will be better.

And if you think that RGT gets heated take a look at the comments below the vid. lol
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02-23-2009 , 05:57 PM
I never read youtube comments. I'd have to shower too often.
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02-23-2009 , 06:02 PM
The fact that a massive percentage of debate over religion is now Internet-based is not helping. If it was in person, it's not like I would be assured to hate Jib, or not try to get on Splendour just because she's nuts (to the contrary, my friends).
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02-23-2009 , 06:44 PM
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The fact that a massive percentage of debate over religion is now Internet-based is not helping. If it was in person, it's not like I would be assured to hate Jib, or not try to get on Splendour just because she's nuts (to the contrary, my friends).
I don't hate you. I thought we were friends.
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02-23-2009 , 06:48 PM
"Respect Christians?

Jesus Christ was a dirty, filthy, lying piece of toilet scum. He has tortured and killed the poor and innocent and rewarded his murderous foot soldiers with riches and power. He is the abominable offspring of the rape of a Hebrew whore by the evil demon that calls itself Yahweh. Lucifer is the one true Lord and Savior that will give us unconditional love and protect us from the evil Yahweh and his bastard progeny Jesus...

I'll never pay homage to any filthy slave of Yahweh!"

LOL
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02-23-2009 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
I don't hate you. I thought we were friends.
I was just using you as an example of a theist here. I only hate God.
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02-23-2009 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Autocratic
I was just using you as an example of a theist here. I only hate God.
lol. fair enough.
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02-23-2009 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Autocratic
I was just using you as an example of a theist here. I only hate God.
I'll admit It's hard for me to respect anyone who worships a genocidal God like the Christians, Jews, and Muslims do. I mean I'm still nice to them and all, but it takes effort. I understand intellectually it's not their fault for having such silly and potentially globally destructive beliefs, but most of the time I just wanna scream out "What the **** is wrong with you!"

I don't feel this struggle when I run into someone who's part of a truly loving and peaceful religion like Jainism, even though there are a lot of silly beliefs there too.

I'm generally not a very emotional person, but last night while I was googling for some Christian school girls to add the the Atheist Pic's thread, I ran into a 2005 article with gruesome pictures about three Christian girls who were beheaded by Muslims in Indonesia. Tears streamed down my face as I looked at the images.

With all my heart I do hate the God of the Christians, Muslims and Jews. I consider this hatred a moral imperative.
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02-23-2009 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ILOVEPOKER929
I'll admit It's hard for me to respect anyone who worships a genocidal God like the Christians, Jews, and Muslims do. I mean I'm still nice to them and all, but it takes effort. I understand intellectually it's not their fault for having such silly and potentially globally destructive beliefs, but most of the time I just wanna scream out "What the **** is wrong with you!"

I don't feel this struggle when I run into someone who's part of a truly loving and peaceful religion like Jainism, even though there are a lot of silly beliefs there too.

I'm generally not a very emotional person, but last night while I was googling for some Christian school girls to add the the Atheist Pic's thread, I ran into a 2005 article with gruesome pictures about three Christian girls who were beheaded by Muslims in Indonesia. Tears streamed down my face as I looked at the images.

With all my heart I do hate the God of the Christians, Muslims and Jews. I consider this hatred a moral imperative.
As you may or may not remember when I first started posting here how many times I blew up at various atheists. I blows my mind how many refuse to look at things objectively and how many times they are corrected on the beliefs of christianity and yet they still cling to their straw man beliefs. And how many times i have had to correct people about not differentiating man made religion and people from the bible. It has made me sick at times.

But I work through it and have learned to better control my rage.

So I empathize with you.
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02-23-2009 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
As you may or may not remember when I first started posting here how many times I blew up at various atheists. I blows my mind how many refuse to look at things objectively and how many times they are corrected on the beliefs of christianity and yet they still cling to their straw man beliefs. And how many times i have had to correct people about not differentiating man made religion and people from the bible. It has made me sick at times.

But I work through it and have learned to better control my rage.

So I empathize with you.
I see the genocidal behavior of the God of the Christians, Muslims, and Jews in the bible. I see the destruction the worshipers of these religions have caused over the last 4-5K years. I know that the majority of Christians, Muslims and Jews have not directly caused this destruction, but I still hate the God they worship and I think I have good reason to.

You can't erase what God did in the OT. You can't ignore that many people have done some horrible things based on their beliefs of what the OT, NT and Koran said. You cannot claim that your (more peaceful) beliefs in what your book says are more valid than theirs.

There is a reason why you'll never see a person crashing into a building, torturing someone, or blowing up an abortion clinic in the name of Jainism.
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02-24-2009 , 08:29 PM
I don't have a problem with christians in real life. I've even had creationists in my living room trying to convince me about intelligent design.

I think they were intellectually way off and cut a good deal of shortcuts in their arguments, but for all intents and purposes they seemed like very nice people. I can scream on here about how the god of the OT is violent (which I do think he is) but I'd be surprised if those people could even swat flies without having a bad conscience.

I agree that internetbased debate tends to grow alot more hostile since the "niceties" of real life encounters tend to be ignored.
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02-24-2009 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
As you may or may not remember when I first started posting here how many times I blew up at various atheists. I blows my mind how many refuse to look at things objectively and how many times they are corrected on the beliefs of christianity and yet they still cling to their straw man beliefs. And how many times i have had to correct people about not differentiating man made religion and people from the bible. It has made me sick at times.
This is just too funny.
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02-25-2009 , 08:11 AM
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I'll admit It's hard for me to respect anyone who worships a genocidal God like the Christians, Jews, and Muslims do. I mean I'm still nice to them and all, but it takes effort. I understand intellectually it's not their fault for having such silly and potentially globally destructive beliefs, but most of the time I just wanna scream out "What the **** is wrong with you!"

I don't feel this struggle when I run into someone who's part of a truly loving and peaceful religion like Jainism, even though there are a lot of silly beliefs there too.
LOL

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I was just using you as an example of a theist here. I only hate God.
I thought you believed that there was no God, so you hate something that isn't even there? even more LOL.
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02-25-2009 , 08:17 AM
i think religious people need to be ridiculed more. youd ridicule someone if they told you that they thought Elvis were alive, or Astrology held the keys to predicting the future. these people need to realize just how fringe worthy their superstitions are. id like to see them constantly ridiculed in public life, and in private. and for someone who publicly admits to believing in God or Jesus to have as much chance at a respectable career if they admitted to believing in Zeus or Poseidon.
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02-25-2009 , 08:21 AM
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i think religious people need to be ridiculed more
Sums it all up for me IMO, thanks.
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02-25-2009 , 08:25 AM
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youd ridicule someone if they told you that they thought Elvis were alive, Astrology held the keys to predicting the future
No, I wouldn't. But someone like you might put people down and belittle/ridicule them.
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02-25-2009 , 08:46 AM
I always try and approach a Christian with kindness and respect, I have no incentive to make enemies. However I will use a reactive strategy equal to their approach throughout, if they are kind to me, I will be kind to them, if they are rude to me I will be rude to them, if they take their actions too far, I will likely leave the debate/discussion. Not all situations are the same however, RoosterCAD has shown me what a disgusting human being he is. I see no reason not to be rude to him.
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02-25-2009 , 08:50 AM
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RoosterCAD has shown me what a disgusting human being he is. I see no reason not to be rude to him.
You say this and yet give no examples
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02-25-2009 , 08:55 AM
sigh,
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You say this and yet give no examples
Maybe you've repressed this
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02-25-2009 , 09:02 AM
sign,

Thats how I WOULD (FUTURE TENSE) re-act if I knew the things I believe not to be true, that is NOT the way I am today (PRESENT TENSE)

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RoosterCAD has shown me what a disgusting human being he is
So you are basing your conclusions on me on something I said on a situation that has NEVER happened.
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02-25-2009 , 09:06 AM
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sign,

Thats how I WOULD act if
This terrifies me and shows your inherent evil. God will see through you like a window.
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02-25-2009 , 09:10 AM
Rushinankil, I think you mis-understand the point of that thread.

How can God see through me if it is proven that he does not exist?
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02-25-2009 , 09:30 AM
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No, I wouldn't. But someone like you might put people down and belittle/ridicule them.
would AND do
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02-25-2009 , 10:15 AM
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Rushinankil, I think you mis-understand the point of that thread.

How can God see through me if it is proven that he does not exist?
A. no one believes we have proven God does not exist

B. you admitted to being an inherently terrible and malicious person who only behaves well because you believe you are being observed and judged.

If there were someone identical to you, except that they would remain to be an ethical person even if God were proven to not exist, do you think that person would be morally superior to yourself?
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