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03-17-2012 , 10:57 PM
I occasionally read various diatribes on here against atheists and attacks on them based on their 'militant' beliefs, arrogance, love of science etc etc

Thinking about it all though, most of my friends are atheists but if I asked them to define their religious beliefs they would just state they don't have any. They have probably never even thought about the term 'atheist' as they don't define themselves in any way. Some of them wouldn't even know what it meant. They just aren't religious. It's a non issue for them. They don't contemplate philosophical arguments concerning the nature of reality, existence etc etc. The idea that they'd have some common views and beliefs just doesn't hold any water at all. The only thing they share in common is a lack of belief in fairies, gods, leprechauns, chocolate teapots orbiting the sun, spaghetti monsters (the heathens )
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03-17-2012 , 11:43 PM
Difference between a secular and religious society, IMO. Those that call atheists 'militant' fail to see the hypocrisy.
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03-17-2012 , 11:48 PM
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03-18-2012 , 12:44 AM
We don't believe in your God like you don't believe in Islam or Thor. This means you have lots of believes right? You believe in one god plus dont believe in lots of other gods, we are then same on all counts other than you believe in one we dont. ya get me?
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03-18-2012 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Husker
I occasionally read various diatribes on here against atheists and attacks on them based on their 'militant' beliefs, arrogance, love of science etc etc

Thinking about it all though, most of my friends are atheists but if I asked them to define their religious beliefs they would just state they don't have any. They have probably never even thought about the term 'atheist' as they don't define themselves in any way. Some of them wouldn't even know what it meant. They just aren't religious. It's a non issue for them. They don't contemplate philosophical arguments concerning the nature of reality, existence etc etc. The idea that they'd have some common views and beliefs just doesn't hold any water at all. The only thing they share in common is a lack of belief in fairies, gods, leprechauns, chocolate teapots orbiting the sun, spaghetti monsters (the heathens )
That's the best thing about it. Atheism wouldn't exist without religion. I look forward to a world where their are no atheists....because there are no theists.

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03-18-2012 , 05:51 AM
here is another picture of a militant atheist

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03-18-2012 , 06:31 AM
You're not really making that argument are you? LOL at you.
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03-18-2012 , 06:44 AM
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here is another picture of a militant atheist
Come on man.
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03-18-2012 , 08:31 AM
Stu's not horribly wrong, but it only emphasises the absurdity of applying the term to people here.
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03-18-2012 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu Pidasso
here is another picture of a militant atheist

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This pic makes a very important point about people with moustaches.
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03-18-2012 , 09:51 AM
Don't atheists think like communists? They want to spread the idea that atheism is right all around the world.

I know a lot of people think the Domino Theory was wrong but they forget that the communists aimed at a worldwide hegemony and that it's impossible to stop the spread of ideas and adding on new twists to those ideas.

Did you see the Red Army roll out of Eastern Europe after Stalin and the Allied Powers beat Hitler? No, they set up shop to stay permanently and oversee communism's advance.
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03-18-2012 , 10:14 AM
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Don't atheists think like communists? They want to spread the idea that atheism is right all around the world.

I know a lot of people think the Domino Theory was wrong but they forget that the communists aimed at a worldwide hegemony and that it's impossible to stop the spread of ideas and adding on new twists to those ideas.

Did you see the Red Army roll out of Eastern Europe after Stalin and the Allied Powers beat Hitler? No, they set up shop to stay permanently and oversee communism's advance.
Atheism has nothing to do with communism. Atheism is a single position, a rejection of the claim that god or gods exist. That is it. Sure, some atheists would like everyone to be atheists, just as some communists would like to spread communism. However, there are plenty of atheists and communists who don't, so you are painting with a broad brush and making claims you cannot back up.
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03-18-2012 , 11:18 AM
So... missionaries? What about Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? Did they not also 'think like communists'?
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03-18-2012 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Don't atheists think like communists? They want to spread the idea that atheism is right all around the world.

I know a lot of people think the Domino Theory was wrong but they forget that the communists aimed at a worldwide hegemony and that it's impossible to stop the spread of ideas and adding on new twists to those ideas.

Did you see the Red Army roll out of Eastern Europe after Stalin and the Allied Powers beat Hitler? No, they set up shop to stay permanently and oversee communism's advance.
I honestly think you need to get out more if this is your thought process. I take it you've never travelled?
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03-18-2012 , 11:33 AM
[QUOTE=Splendour;32115992]Don't atheists think like communists? They want to spread the idea that atheism is right all around the world.

How did you come to this conclusion? Such a weird try to connect the two.

First off, no, I've never tried to "spread" atheism. Most of us aren't out to change others beliefs. In fact, I respect all religions. What you believe, who you worship and pray to is none of my business. But to say we're like communists because we don't believe in god, or gods, is quite a stretch.

Secondly, you should be careful when speaking, and think before you press submit. In your view, wouldn't christians think like communists too? Are they not trying to spread the word of jesus?
Or is it just a double standard that you don't see.
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03-18-2012 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Don't atheists think like communists? They want to spread the idea that atheism is right all around the world.
Why do you argue against a position when you do not understand the position that you're arguing against?

As danton points out, atheism is simply the rejection of a claim for which there is no evidence (or for which an individual feels there is insufficient evidence).

Do you think like a communist when it comes to the tooth fairy?
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03-18-2012 , 11:35 AM
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Don't atheists think like communists?
No, but communism and religion have exactly the same structure.
And that is the reason why they are so against each other, pure competition.
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03-18-2012 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Don't atheists think like communists? They want to spread the idea that atheism is right all around the world.

I know a lot of people think the Domino Theory was wrong but they forget that the communists aimed at a worldwide hegemony and that it's impossible to stop the spread of ideas and adding on new twists to those ideas.

Did you see the Red Army roll out of Eastern Europe after Stalin and the Allied Powers beat Hitler? No, they set up shop to stay permanently and oversee communism's advance.
I can't speak for other atheists, but personally I tend to think more like a nazi. Sometimes when I'm in a good mood I might merely feel pro-apartheid.

Recently I purchased a hollowed-out volcano.
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03-18-2012 , 02:03 PM
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Recently I purchased a hollowed-out volcano.
My brother-in-law's a contractor, I can get you a rate on sculpting it into the shape of your face.
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03-18-2012 , 02:34 PM
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My brother-in-law's a contractor, I can get you a rate on sculpting it into the shape of your face.


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03-18-2012 , 02:52 PM
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So... missionaries? What about Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? Did they not also 'think like communists'?
Yes they do. They're evangelical. They spread the Gospel.

The communists spread communism.

The difference is in the goals.

Communism's goals are earthly. They're concerned with our home on earth.

Evangelicals are concerned with our future home. Future life.

Communism actively promoted atheism as a state position. They thought the carnal world should be able to cut the spiritual vine.

John 15
1 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes[a] so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me."

You have a very serious right to re-birth in this world. Do you want the government controlling your access to it?

You could consider the whole world as spiritual widows (ers) and orphans. Jesus Christ adopts us.

Your right to be adopted is an incredibly important right to lose or let the state control.

New Living Translation (Galatians 4:5)
"God sent him to buy freedom for us who were slaves to the law, so that he could adopt us as his very own children."
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03-18-2012 , 03:20 PM
So would it be fair to say, via the transitive property, that missionaries are like atheists?
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03-18-2012 , 03:33 PM
I think the comparison ends there.

Evangelicals are commissioned under the Great Commission to serve a higher purpose.
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03-18-2012 , 03:49 PM
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I think the comparison ends there.

Evangelicals are commissioned under the Great Commission to serve a higher purpose.
Yes, unlike naz... sorry... atheists who serve rotten horrible purposes and only want to enslave the world under the flag of comm... err... secularism.

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03-18-2012 , 04:54 PM
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I think the comparison ends there.

Evangelicals are commissioned under the Great Commission to serve a higher purpose.
And the S.S. was commissioned by the Fuhrer to serve a greater purpose...what's your point?
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