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Originally Posted by shahrad
If someone delivers a gift, it is lacking of evidence that no one did send us the gift. It is not lacking of evidence that there was someone who did send us the gift. When there is a painting it is not lacking of evidence that there was a painter
Yeah, but paintings don't spontaneously paint themselves out of nothing and packages/gifts don't deliver themselves. So we can assume a painter or sender.
Do universes spontaneously exist? We have no idea. How does a universe form? Where does it come from? Did it come from anything - maybe it was always there?
And that's the point - neither of us have any idea about where a universe like ours originates. So do you see how inappropriate it is to compare it to a painting? We know it's EXTREMELY likely that a painting originates from a painter, whereas we have no idea where a universe originates.
So in having no clue how our universe originated, if you're going to propose a theory on how it did, you'll need evidence.
Your argument was also an example of black and white thinking - "(because these things that exist need a creator) everything that exists must need a creator."
You cannot say EVERYTHING that exists has to have been created by someone.
Last edited by SixT4; 02-13-2010 at 08:51 PM.