Pm sent to Joker, this is ridiculous.

Pulling all this discussion out of the negative feedback thread as it's not where it belongs. Also:

Beware of this guy, and definitely do not stake.

That says even more about your character. You didn't ship him the rakeback money you found.

dear alex23,

you shouldn't be staking 12 year olds. as you can see, they are totally dumb and don't have a clue about anything.

FYP

You're a real moron for seeking a staker instead of a psychiatrist in the first place. There's a name for people like you: ****knuckles

Anyone think we should start a fund where some backers put in $5/month? The pool of money goes to the backer of the player who does the dumbest thing that month? this would at least entertain us, right?

his location makes this whole thread so lololololololol

You are scumbag Gary Johnson, nothing more to it.

How can douch bags like this get not only 1 stake but 2, and I can't even get 1?

Actually, staking is pretty wide open and almost anyone who hasnt scammed can get a stake (if not on 2+2 than on one of many staking websites)

Well i've never been staked so I haven't scammed anyone, and never would. I'm also a 2bb/100 winner at 100nl but i've been turned down by at least 4 different people here on 2+2, so don't know why. Maybe it's because I don't have any references. What sites are u talking about/recommend?

Ok geniuses, think about this:

Scenario 1: I have whatever I have left in the account. I continue play half-heartedly and possibly lose even more. The 100k hand requirement finishes and the stake ends. Alex is still down the same amount or probably more and by his contract, he absorbs the FULL loss.

Scenario 2: I give him back all that's left knowing that finishing the hand requirement would end up being a waste of time. He'd just end up losing more because quite frankly, no one is going to be inspired to play their best knowing they are in make-up. Uphill battles for someone else lol

Obviously, some of the kids in this thread are gonna say

"Well, any stakee can make that excuse and blah blah"

I'm not a new random stakee. I've been staked by him before and he made about 2800 off me. We also talked strategy on a regular basis so obviously (unless I'm some evil mastermind whose world domination plan involves him losing money), there is no reason for me to be scamming him. There is no point in me playing out another month half-assed just so he can still be down 3k or more.

If I finished the 100k hands and he still was in a deficit (especially a larger one), would you still cry? Or are you crying because I'm not paying him imaginary money. If I had 3k to spare, I obv wouldn't need to be staked, now would I?

Think about it. I had two successful stakes in the past (one including Alex), what would be the point of trying to scam him or stealing (man, if I'm a thief, I wonder why I don't have his money). I made a judgment call that saved him money. There is no big difference than if I finished the 100k in deficit. I simply saved time. The time I would be holding up some of his money and risking it playing half-assed.

Clearly, I was a good candidate, no? I received stakes from people on the internet. Obviously, they aren't good-hearted people who just want to give everyone a chance so I must of did something right to get the stakes lol

Joker, (fitting name btw)

you're mentioning "scenario 1" and "scenario 2" in the same breath as if they are equally valid. Unfortunately, they are not. If you finish out the remainder of your 100k hands and lose your backer more money, so be it. But quitting in makeup violates the implicit (or explicit, if you actually signed a written contract) agreement you had with your backer to act professionally and ethically, and thus makes you a scammer and a thief.

Do you guys even know what scammer or thief means? LOL

Our contract has a stipulation where that part of the agreement could be negotiated in my favor as I posted earlier in the thread. If I told Alex that

a) I probably will play half-assed because LOL I'm in make-up and I don't really have an incentive besides just wanting to finish out the hands
b) Do you want to risk more money, Alex?
c) Do you want to have your money held up for another month or month and a half, Alex?

No-brainer. It would be let me go and absorb the loss. Let's see how Alex would answer

I don't usually say this to people, but you're a ****** moron.

Typical response from a 2+2 (LOL). I don't agree so you're dumb!

Hey! I don't agree that that would be your only incentive! You're dumb!

LOL, are you serious? Especially since you don't know what neither "scammer" nor "thief" mean. Come, give us a definition

You should look for some professional help Joker

I love the irony in this post. Random third-parties are crying over a contract between me and Alex and then post lines like this. Come on, you have to appreciate the irony.

I don't usually say this to people, but you're a ****** moron.

Dont understand why this guy was able to create a second account here after been banned...Why isnt a mod taking care of this? Why can someone create as many account as they want after scamming the comunity and still be a part of it?
Joker, u violated the contract because u wanted to, i left a backing deal once while in make up but i paid the guy out, you´re arrogance its insulting, u think u own the truth, the hole comunity agrees u did wrong and ur behavior (u dont accep it) its exactly the type of things we want to avoid here...If u would like to get backing go to part time poker, u made a great fit in there...Best of luck.

Woah! I can do that too! ...nice

I think after reading the bolded part, there really is no point to reading the rest of your post. You're not very quick, are you?

But anyway, I have no need to bicker with the random nobodys. I'm interested in what Alex would honestly have done if I came to him with this no-brainer situation.

hi joker89,

if you don't want to bicker with random nobodys, why did you come back to the online forum where absolutely nobody likes you? nobody is going to communicate nicely with you, because everyone reading this thread is hoping you will just vanish into thin air never to be heard from in the poker world again.

Then why u create this thread if u knew the type of response u were gonna get by the comunity? If ur intentions were to settle this privatetly between u and ur backer why u made it public? ANd why in hell would u want to continue to go against EVERY SINGLE POSTER here? And build yourself basically an awfull reputation and decreasing your chances of been backed by anybody here ever again?
Please, can any of the mods take care of this clown?