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04-04-2010 , 08:17 PM
Hi all, I play under finnianp on stars and am looking for a stake for 50nl. I've been playing cash seriously for about a year and a half. The reason I'm looking for a stake is that I need to withdraw most of my bankroll to book a holiday to Thailand for the summer, where I'll continue to grind. I've had one backer in the past, finished the 150k hand contract (at 50nl)with no compaints from the backer, making over 1k for each of us. I'm sure he'll provide me with a good reference.

What I'm looking for is $1500 USD to play 50nl, splitting the profits 35/65 in my favour. This might sound strange but there is very little risk of getting scammed, because I've been staked $1500 in the past with no complaints. Another reason my share of the profits is so high is because I'm a proven winner over ~1,000000 hands. I play around 15k hands a week, but this will increase once my college exams finish in May.

Graphs:

Total hands since mid Jan 09 (My pokertracker is messed up, the stats you see bottom right are wrong, as you can clearly see from the graph):



My first staking agreement:



My email is finnpegler@gmail.com if you would like any more details.
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04-04-2010 , 11:45 PM
So why is it that your PT graph is accurate with the bottom graph, but not the first one?

Is pretty much your only play at 50NL under that backer?

Solid stats by the way. Good luck finding a 35/65 backer though. A 1bb winner can still have significant swings, but with your stats, and providing that your previous backer says good things about you, you will probably get some offers.
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04-05-2010 , 12:20 AM
would be good if you could get your old backer to post in this thread as a reference
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04-05-2010 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by OsTornado
So why is it that your PT graph is accurate with the bottom graph, but not the first one?

Is pretty much your only play at 50NL under that backer?

Solid stats by the way. Good luck finding a 35/65 backer though. A 1bb winner can still have significant swings, but with your stats, and providing that your previous backer says good things about you, you will probably get some offers.
I really don't know why that is. Anyone who wants to have a teamviewer session with me is more than welcome to, to have a look at my PT.

Yes pretty much, despite a few small shots at 50nl back in Feb and Mar 09 when I was a poorer player.

As to my winrate, I really think I am better than a 1BB player. I was 24 tabling for the duration of the stake, but the idea is to drop to 15 tables, improve, and gradually get back to playing 24 at a greater winrate. If someone sticks with me, I hope to be 24 tabling 50nl with at least a 2.5BB/100 winrate in less than two months. I should probably have mentioned this in the first post.
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Originally Posted by Invertible
would be good if you could get your old backer to post in this thread as a reference
I'll send him a PM.
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04-05-2010 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by OsTornado
So why is it that your PT graph is accurate with the bottom graph, but not the first one?
PTR started to track 2-50NL in fall 2009 so if he played most of his hands before that, PTR wouldn't have them.
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04-05-2010 , 07:34 AM
would maybe consider, but not at 35/65, at least for the 50k first hands and provided old backer vouches and is reputable.
55% for you for the first 50k hands if > 3.5ptbb we move to 60/40 for you, i mean 1.47BB is nothing stunning justifying such a huge markup in your favour (and the 1mil hands graph does not show a much better wr)
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04-05-2010 , 08:01 AM
I have it in my head for some reason that your from Manchester? Am I wrong?
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04-05-2010 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JLBorloo
would maybe consider, but not at 35/65, at least for the 50k first hands and provided old backer vouches and is reputable.
55% for you for the first 50k hands if > 3.5ptbb we move to 60/40 for you, i mean 1.47BB is nothing stunning justifying such a huge markup in your favour (and the 1mil hands graph does not show a much better wr)
Very true, but the idea is for me to drop the amount of tables I play and improve, and then gradually increase the tables back up to 24. There is no risk in me running off with anyones money, the only risk is will I improve or not, and by how much. If I don't, then ~1.5BB/100 isn't a disaster for anyone involved.


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Originally Posted by Perfection
I have it in my head for some reason that your from Manchester? Am I wrong?
Nope, just an avid Manchester United supporter. I'm from Ireland.
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04-05-2010 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by finnianp
Very true, but the idea is for me to drop the amount of tables I play and improve, and then gradually increase the tables back up to 24. There is no risk in me running off with anyones money, the only risk is will I improve or not, and by how much. If I don't, then ~1.5BB/100 isn't a disaster for anyone involved.
If you are pretty sure you'll improve and expect to do 15k hands a week why wouldn't you take the deal with the terms that you reevaluate after 50k hands or so?

JLB is awesome btw.
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04-05-2010 , 11:33 AM
Well its a free market after all; I was just doing an offer.
The truth of the matter is that I can risk half money and stake a decent 25Nler (4ptbb) for the same profit. Or stake two for the double. And believe me people become quickly trustworthy when you have the copy of their passport and filtered out the shady ones, so it is not really an issue either.

gl in your endeavours OP !

Last edited by JLBorloo; 04-05-2010 at 11:57 AM.
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04-05-2010 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lenC
PTR started to track 2-50NL in fall 2009 so if he played most of his hands before that, PTR wouldn't have them.
What does PTR tracking hands have to do with PT?
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04-05-2010 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JLBorloo
Well its a free market after all; I was just doing an offer.
The truth of the matter is that I can risk half money and stake a decent 25Nler (4ptbb) for the same profit. Or stake two for the double. And believe me people become quickly trustworthy when you have the copy of their passport and filtered out the shady ones, so it is not really an issue either.

gl in your endeavours OP !
Yep. If you're doing your job as a backer, you will have lowered the risk of someone running with your money, so your real risk is whether they will make a profit and if so, how much over what time period.

And even if you have a reference, nothing personal, but there's still a chance that you would run off with the money.
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04-06-2010 , 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by OsTornado
So why is it that your PT graph is accurate with the bottom graph, but not the first one?
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Originally Posted by finnianp
I really don't know why that is. Anyone who wants to have a teamviewer session with me is more than welcome to, to have a look at my PT.
I may have a solution, my PT3 graph did the same sort of thing after updating to the latest beta, a beta or 2 ago, only does it on an unfiltered graph. If you find out the date of your first played hand, then use filter since a date, that is just before the first hand you played it gives the correct BB/100, no of hands etc...

Try it and let us know if it works.
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04-06-2010 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Inland Knight
I may have a solution, my PT3 graph did the same sort of thing after updating to the latest beta, a beta or 2 ago, only does it on an unfiltered graph. If you find out the date of your first played hand, then use filter since a date, that is just before the first hand you played it gives the correct BB/100, no of hands etc...

Try it and let us know if it works.
It worked thanks:



I've had three PMs of interest, nothing concrete sorted yet.
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04-06-2010 , 03:12 PM
are you adding FPP value to the stake as well and how will they be split?
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04-06-2010 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Invertible
are you adding FPP value to the stake as well and how will they be split?
I'm not adding fpps to the stake.
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04-06-2010 , 05:52 PM
Who was your last backer?

I might send you an offer but it won't be for 35/65.
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04-06-2010 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JLBorloo
And believe me people become quickly trustworthy when you have the copy of their passport and filtered out the shady ones, so it is not really an issue either.
What? You have people send you their passport before you'll back them?
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04-06-2010 , 07:19 PM
Backer found, thanks to all who PM'd me.
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04-09-2010 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
What? You have people send you their passport before you'll back them?
passport copy obviously, coupled with the copy of the cashier with name adress.
do you think it is unacceptable ?
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04-09-2010 , 04:24 PM
Wow JLB I can't believe that.

Spoiler:
I make them send me their physical passport. You're asking to get scammed bro
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