Do you play more then one account? do you prefer playing short stacked and ratholing?

are you 40puts?

What are you pissed about Mr "I pot when I bluff" on 2m2m?

Fris....$hit,

this should be an epic thread...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...unting-733894/

These "allegations" are actually pretty serious and needs an answer. Stox's lack of response is pretty damning. If people suspected me of doing this, I would be all over it.

There are online poker players who have used 2nd screenames for the purpose of deceiving others into giving them action, evading taxes, collusion, entering multiple times into the same tournament, ghosting, to obscure previous results and stats, to clear extra bonuses, to circumvent affiliate CPA or rakeback rules, to bypass the pokersites shortstack buy-in time limitation, to teamplay, to share action with others at the same table, to chip dump or otherwise engage in underhanded actions I do not know about. I have never done any of these things. Beyond that I cannot and will not comment on the screename issue, nor can I say why I cannot elaborate further other than to say that my reasons for that are serious and personal.

I have played a shortstack some of the time, I will do this when games are tough and I don't want to just not play, when there is a good game at a "shallow" table, in CAP NL games, or I think it's the most profitable strategy for that particular table. My poker results are shown over my last 650k hands or so in the HEM screenshot below, and they are sorted by stack size. A good percentage of the "under 50bbs" stack size games are from cap tables, where the buy-in is 30bbs. The rest are from 20-40 BB buy-in at "shallow" tables and a 20-50BB buyin at normal tables. The collusion allegation is laughable and completely false.

im sorry i got caught!!!!!

its not cheating if i only stick the head in?

At least you admit that you cheat. Kudos. I don't think you realize how what you just said affects others! I'm a fanboy and have been for years. At least I know you are falliable and human. You are not "everybody". You are stoxtrader; you have a training site named after you. Seriously, your non chalant attitude is disgusting. GL

I've been reading the threads and actions such as this aren't relegated to a single person. All across poker there are people pushing edges and crossing lines. High profile individuals are certainly held to a higher standard, but the 'Holier than thou' attitude is a bit disturbing. Money, Power, Greed and Sex casts it's spell over many people and they are able to "justify" their actions in a way which they believe they aren't A) crossing the line or B) they are entitled to do so.

It is well known and common knowledge high profile nose bleed players utilize a number of s/n's and accounts across a spectrum of sites. Does that make it correct to do so? Of course not, but it has happened, does happen and will continue to happen. So why is everybody behaving like this is a "ZOMG I can't believe this goes on" moment???

Tiger Woods is a prime example. He has more money than a mule could ****, but sexing it up was as he admitted, something he felt he was owed and could partake in without violating certain principles. Of course until he was exposed. Money drives business people, politicians, cops, informants and all types of individuals to cross many ethical lines and boundaries.

What's done is done and it will be sorted out. You can police yourselves as best you can at the higher stakes and out those who are cheating. But why aren't the poker sites themselves policing their own sites? I mean you are always reading about some dimwit micro player who had his online funds of a few hundred dollars "confiscated" for having multiple accounts in the BBV/NVG forums. So we all know the sites can accomplish the busting of multiple accounts, right? Certainly it must be a simple matter for security software to red flag a certain IP address logging on and playing under multiple accounts. At the micro stakes I can see two accounts for a couple like husband and wife playing recreationally or something, but if they are BOTH playing high stakes games, I would think the bar would be raised higher for the poker site to make certain things are legitimate.

Instead of publicly crucifying Nick, why isn't there also a mass protest outing the site and their lack of monitoring, or special treatment to red pro's, nose bleed players and people who are affiliated with them in a business sense?

I'm not condoning cheating and MAing, but I believe the site themselves should also be held accountable for the actions of high profile players on their respective sites as well.

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If other any other coaches that you know of were involved would you be willing to give up names to PS in exchange for the right to hold ONE account? Stox you want to show actions give us names... and not Jason Ho. Another thing management since Jason Ho was publicly humiliated what is the deal here. I have had it w/ your site Stox management. In this competitive market you have DRMed videos. When I asked Alex about this he claimed he does not know what DRM is. I have the email and for people running a business thats not good. Might as well have Jason Ho run the company than these Jokers. I want Ho back and so does most everyone I know.

I don't understand what the big deal with DRM is. If you login to a video, you can be offline and access said video for 2 weeks w/o any problem. If I stated in my PM to you that I didn't know what DRM is, I apologize as I miss-spoke. I was simply trying to say that I didn't know the exact details as to how long DRM licenses stayed good for while offline/etc.

Alex I accept your apology and you might have mis spoke but what you said then and what you are saying now are 2 different things. I will give u the benefit of a huge doubt and drop it. My concern is u just belittled my suggestion in ur statement here saying u don't know what the big deal is. With DC and Drag The Bar. I keep a copy of my videos forever on my PC. I can also put them on my Ipod or any other portable device. If you don't see the benefits no DRM can be to subscribers maybe you guys need to do a focous group. You asked for suggestions and I gave you one that is really needed. Drag the bar has taken half your coaches including Leatherass and premier mental coach Jared Tendler they also have purchased poker swats library and have no DRM. DCs library is the same size or bigger and they have no DRM and premier coaches. Survival of the fittest or go the way of the T-rex.

DRM free is a huge advantage for the customer. Hassle free and the customer gets to keep the videos, like the poster above mentioned.

Anyways what is going to happen to stox poker if the allegations against Stoxtrader are true? Would cardrunner buy Stoxpoker out and get rid of the Stoxpoker name so that cardrunners brand name does not get tarnished? Or can cardrunners part ways with stox poker completely?

In all seriousness do I think stox is a bad guy? No, he made a mistake and that's between him and PS. I said Jason Ho in my last post and that's not fair to Stox to compare him to that scumbag. Stox is an asset ton Stoxpoker as a coach and video maker and hopefully he will learn his lesson. That's all I can say any other suggestions fall on deaf ears.

It is difficult to respond effectively and quickly to an internet speed witch hunt. It is my opinion that myself, stoxpoker and cardrunners have a number of competitors and enemies that are seizing on this opportunity to discredit myself and our company. I have not been able to participate actively in these threads for a number of reasons, but a main one is that I have not had a chance to discuss this with taylor caby or jim varnon. They should be back in the US this evening and we should be able to release an official statement at that time or tomorrow morning.

cliff notes: you will hear from one of the three of us on this situation in an official capacity within 24 hours.

Jesus Christ. You need to consult with other people before clearing your own name? How hard is it to answer yes or no to a few UNAMBIGUOUS questions? The only reason a person would have to "consult" other people is get their lies straight. You seriously need to work on your communications skills.

"you will hear from one of the three of us"

i'm willing to bet it won't be you

it also allows for those videos to appear on torrents, rapidshare, megaupload and all kinds of other similar places..

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stox is way worse than jason ho because hes lied to the community about his qualifications (implying he crushes 25/50 as a full stacker but really short stacked the games on many screen names) and actually stole money from his customers and he did this for YEARS. Stox is a POS and deserves to be crucificed on the forums for this and whenever he plays live. Comparing him to jason ho actually is being way to kind, stox is in a league of his own. This is coming from someone who read his book as well and enjoyed it so Im not just being a hater

Stoxtrader has been removed from CardRunners/StoxPoker and has no association with the company in any way.

StoxPoker will be closing effective May 1st.