your family obviously love you and want you around. but maybe you're feeling a little suffocated.

anyway it's not my place to offer recommendations but rehab sounds woat. mind you I've never experienced it so take that with a grain of salt. my thoughts would be to let everyone know you will be out of contact for a cpl of weeks and just disappear. seems there is a lot of pressure on you right now *hug*

you can't help these people until you help yourself.

Also, you can't help people that don't want to be helped.

maybe you can help them want to be helped though, and then they could be helped

Possibi.

makes me wonder what's going on with bogan.

does he need help or is he just an a-hole?

I want the truth.

Probably both.

I'm gonna guess 60% needs help, 35% a-hole, 5% cheese.

55ahole 45 needs help

I said I would do a PAHWM, but not really many interesting hands. I guess I'll post an embarrassing one...

1/3 at Aria

Hero has $190. Sat down with $200 bout 15 mins before. Is sleepy. No Dominic at table yet. Table seems decent, but normal. Couple of somewhat aggressive Germans, couple of older people who don't seem that tight, guy in collared shirt who just sat down, unfriendly guy with shades, etc.

Hero UTG with AK

Hero?

Next street in the morning. I'm exhausted. Gnite y'all.

Limp, to set up a c/r.

Okay, for a ****ing alcoholic what feels right is drinking alcohol until your liver becomes cirrhosed, your portal vein (the major vein that feeds the liver where all blood passes through so that it can be purified) backs up into your throat and you start throwing up blood. Dying from COPD or cirrhosis is probably one of the worst ways to go, honestly.

Anyway, at some point someone who is strongly addicted to a substance, at some point they stop being able to make rational choices for themselves.
All due respect - you're trying to find other issues to focus on besides yourself, because you don't want to think about fixing yourself. Just imagine what would happen to your parents marriage and lives if you lose your liver, spend a long time in and out of the hospital detoxing, and/or die. Just think about what will happen to their lives Just think about how crazy your ex roommate will end up if one of his good friends passes away or is in and out of the hospital all the time.
You are awful and I hate you all over again.

embarrassing? that can only mean one thing

wtf

Anyway, Evan - it is obviously your life and your choice. But you're a good man, you care deeply and are an awesome human being. Be an awesome human being and not a drunk. If anything, do it because all the people you care deeply about will *not* be okay if you succumb to this disease. I know I won't, and hat's because I know how awful alcoholism is on you and those around you.

Let me explain this - if Evan williams does not go to rehab, if he does not stop drinking completely - he will die. He will die horribly. So you saying he "needs to get away" is pretty much approval of him dying a horrible death or that you have no idea what you're talking about.

What are you talking about? I don't want him to be drinking, that's the last thing i want.

I offered him a room here because I don't drink and it's a million miles away from all the pressures that he is facing. Pressure that is probably making him want to drink.

idk, I don't understand alcoholism very well, but fair enough, you know better than I do. So I'll just shut up.

Imo, Evan came to this thread posting about his situation because he was looking for someone to justify how he felt about not wanting to rehab in spite of a lot of people around him thinking that course of action would be best for him. Bryce & Pelican provided that justification for him. Which, imo again, is not helpful.

We've had entirely too many people in this weird little community die prematurely.

i tried to tell a friend about omg and how people are being scammed and how friends i care about are having troubles and he was like lol internet ppl

Is this real life?

I'm sorry

Evan, please go to rehab.

Is Gizmo in here using medical speak?

I would raise here to 15 dollars.

But you probably did something ******ed, like limp or min raise.