i have the observed clicked. a little help on how to datamine observed (not played on) tables?

thanks in advance

If you have FT writing hand histories, all you need to to is set PokerTracker to auto import from the "Hand History" folder, not the "hand history\<player>" folder.

it works for the tables im playing on... but it isnt recording anything for tables i just open up to observe... any help with how to make that work? used to do it way back in the day with pokertracker1

What folder are you importing from?
You need to auto import, not import afterwards because FT removes the files when you close the observed table.

im using trial version of PT3

on the config the directory config is:

C:\Program Files\Full Tilt Poker\HandHistory\myFTnamehere

Change that to
C:\Program Files\Full Tilt Poker\HandHistory
as I said above.

doh! misread that before thanks.

i am assuming that it will still track me correctly since im going to be playing on an "observed" table when playing.

Yes, it will import from both.

To add to this question...(I have datamined hands)...Why wont the free HUD, GameTime+ work with datamined hands? The program doesnt realized the datamined hands...but I obv see them in my PT ring stats. Any good answers...or should I just stop being so cheap a pay for a HUD?

Thanks

Hi,

I just had a couple of questions about datamining.

so basically you can get PT info on people without having to play a hand with them as long as your observing the table right?

do you have to do something special or can u just open up the table and not be sitting down?

Also, the guy above mentioned to import hands from hand history to ensure PT will track all hand histories rather than just the ones i play at, this is correct right?

So, can you datamine at all poker sites? I thought you couldnt datamine at most sites, and since FT is a pretty big one i am just curious.

any advise anyone? I am trying to learn, thanks.

What you said about full tilt is correct.
As for other sites, some allow mining and some don't. Most don't make it as easy as FT, though. Most you need a 3rd party application to generate hands at observed tables.

ok thanks. Do I need to do something special to data mine or can I just open up random tables?

for instance, do I have to click an observe button of some sort, or select options in PT3? or can I just open up a lot of tables and not be seated at them , yet it will datamine?

please let me know if there is anything i ahve to do do datamine aside from the obvious of just opening up random tables and leaving them on.

On Full Tilt, you can just open up a lot of tables and leave them on. Make sure that you can see that PT3 is importing the hands though.

Rather then start a new thread, figured I would ask this here as it pertains to datamining. In the PT3 Processed folder I am gathering a large amount of "LHS****.tmp" files.

(1) Obvious question, what are these temp files?

(2) Are they being gathered because I have "Store Hand History Text" checked when i am mining?

(3) Do most people only use "Import Observed Hands" and not "Store Hand History Text"? Or do you have to use both?

Guess what I am getting at is, I don't want to create this huge amount of stored files if they are only needed to see how individuals played specific hands (inside the PT3 client).

I hope this makes sense

P.S. Just answering the first question will probably automatically answer the others, but all input welcomed. And it shouldn't make a difference but I only mine SnGs.

Cheers

(1) These tmp files are the observed hand histories from the tables you datamined.

(2) No, they're being left in the PT3 Processed folder because you have "move processed files" checked. "Store Hand History Text" means in the database itself.

(3) If you don't store the HH text in the database you can't export the HHs from the database in any way so if there was a problem that required exporting/reimporting your hands you'd be stuck and have to recreate a new (blank) database to move on.

You can delete the LHS*.tmp files if you want, alternately you can zip them up (highlight them, right click, send to --> compressed folder) and they compress down very well.

Hope that helps

Ty Kraada,

Zipin em up will probably be my route then. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't bloating my processed folder with unneeded stuff.

Thnx

its impossible

What is?

from this thread

these quotes seem a bit contradictory to me. Isn't it a good idea to delete the files in the processed folder and just export if need be as WhiteRider mentions?

When I was talking about storing the HH text in the database, I meant by having the "store HH in database" checkbox for observed hands checked. That way it stores the actual text of the hand history in the database, not in the 'processed' folder. This is the more safe option; for one thing if you have two hands with identical filenames (LHA.tmp for example) when PT3 moves a new one into the processed folder the old one will get overwritten. This is a known issue which will be addressed in a future release, but in the meantime keeping the hands in the DB is recommended.

ah, I apologize I did misunderstand.

So it's perfectly fine to delete the files in my processed folder as long as I have the store hand history text option checked?

Yep, though exporting from the database will take a while.

Also, don't export from the database between now and Sunday; wait for Beta 16 to come out first, it fixes a logic issue in the export procedure that will make reimporting exported hands a significantly less painful process

you mean there's no more delays for beta16? <slow clap>



joking aside, thanks for the help Kraada. I don't need to export right away. I just would like to delete the processed folder since it's taking up some space.

Actually Beta 16 was released about an hour ago, fwiw.

This doesn't happen for me - it should be appending _1 _2 etc for duplicate file names.
If anyone is having this problem in Beta 16 please create a support ticket about it.