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12-27-2011 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
When did 2/5 at Bellagio play deeper. Every time I played there, the game was capped at $500. During weekdays, most of the time I was the only one at the table drinking prior to dinner.
oops, my mistake there. you're right, the B is capped at $500. my memory betrays me on this point since from my experience with the two rooms (again handful of visits over the last couple of years), the B has always been looser than the V. but i played mainly on the weekend, and late evening into early morning. lots of drunks...
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12-27-2011 , 02:14 PM
What's your guys thoughts on this....

"If all you are making in an 8 hour shift is $200 you better find a better profession. You should be able to book 400 to 1000 per sitting with a 300 buy in. Change tables and hit and run. To play 1-2 in Las Vegas is asking for a variance downswing. You will make more money playing 2-5 in Bellagio Aria and Venetian with reasonable rakes. Tourists go to Mirage but they take out for a bad beat.

I kill them at Bellagio and Venetian. Try to add PLO to your game mix for better results. However 25 or even 40 an hour are not worth me leaving home for in Florida. I average 600 to 1500 win rate when I do win so I dont have to play 6 days a week.

Tight players get man handled in Las Vegas as most will put you on hands and chase back door draws to Stack you. I am amazed how many times I crack AA with Suited Connectors when the player only plays 3 hands per hour.

Mix up your game. Dont limit yourself to an hourly rate. Go for a session win or loss target. Have at least 5 buyins and always buy a little more than the minimum. At Venetian you will run into local teams so be cognizant of whom your playing against. Use table position to your advantage and dont be afraid to get off losing tables and stay on winning tables.

The key in Las Vegas is Money Management as it is here in Florida. Dont set your goals so low. If there is 1000 buy ins buy in for less Double up or triple up then take down a monster pot then leave.

It never hurts to walk away a winner and DONT CHASE on losing days or sessions. Set your max lose for the day. If you hit your max go home and play another day or another place."


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12-27-2011 , 02:15 PM
I say you stay in Florida for the month and play in Tampa
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12-27-2011 , 02:15 PM
In Detroit the buy in is up to $500.00.

I usually do a full buy/am used to buying in with $500.00.

I had been thinking of buying in for $500.00, even if buy in max is 1k or 1.5. Reason being to feel out the table for a bit. If I determine there's 2 or 3 fish with big stacks in front of them, I'd add on to my $500.00.

Thoughts..???
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12-27-2011 , 05:19 PM
that's a level LG... the little games are tighter than a prom queens thighs for the most part.

occasionally you can find a 1-2/1-3 game that will open up, but the vast majority of them are uber tight. However, get on a heater and yes, you can clean up.
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12-27-2011 , 05:49 PM
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I average 600 to 1500 win rate when I do win
Comments like this tilt me no end. Especially the when I do win part. Wild guess: this player does not keep accurate records and therefore cannot be honest with himself let alone with others.
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12-27-2011 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LotGrinder
In Detroit the buy in is up to $500.00.

I usually do a full buy/am used to buying in with $500.00.

I had been thinking of buying in for $500.00, even if buy in max is 1k or 1.5. Reason being to feel out the table for a bit. If I determine there's 2 or 3 fish with big stacks in front of them, I'd add on to my $500.00.

Thoughts..???
always buy in for the max... that's my personal philosophy.

If you can't comfortably buy in for the maximum, then step down.

to me, buying in low is like showing up to a gun fight with only 2 bullets for your six shooter.
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12-27-2011 , 06:57 PM
So, it's sounding like I should just play all $2/$5.

I am going to fly into Vegas with the attitude that I want to double this $10,000.00 in a month or lose it playing the best poker I can trying.

If after the duration of my stay, I am up $5,000+ after playing 160 hours, then that's fine to....

More I think about it, more just playing $2/$5 and maybe even some $5/$10 makes sense.

I'll have my hotel stay schedule booked by tomorrow.

Would appreciate if any of you could reccomend a gym in the area.
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12-27-2011 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveActionPro
I say you stay in Florida for the month and play in Tampa
No, fly to Vegas and find me if you want to take my cash hoss....
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12-27-2011 , 07:02 PM
There is a girl I online predatorize from Tampa... she's on my facebook...I would really like to have sexual intercourse with her.

If I do well in Vegas for this 3 weeks, perhaps I will do a 2 week journey to Tampa. I'll go as far as this $10,000.00 bankroll takes me. If I fly out you'll have to tell me some good spots to take a lady.
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12-28-2011 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LotGrinder
No, fly to Vegas and find me if you want to take my cash hoss....
I live in Kentucky hoss, and Im just trying to send you in the right direction for some of the worst play in the country, that is what good players do. Game selection. Also you can't go sports fishing in Las vegas lol
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12-28-2011 , 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LiveActionPro
I live in Kentucky hoss, and Im just trying to send you in the right direction for some of the worst play in the country, that is what good players do. Game selection. Also you can't go sports fishing in Las vegas lol
I'll go as far as this $10,000 takes me.

There's a WSOP circuit event in Florida sometime in Feb or March, if I don't go busto in Vegas, I'll check out the Florida poker scene next and update.

I'll have to start getting my beach body in order..
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01-02-2012 , 03:06 AM
Well, its official.

I took xmas week off poker and got back on the grind on New Years Eve and won $1920.00 at MGM Detroit.

I booked hotel rooms at Luxor, MgM, and Ballys for an average of around $50.00 a night.

I will be playing $2\$5 from Jan 13th to Feb 7th at Aria, Bellagio, MgM, Venetian, Caesars, and Wynn.

Will be sure to update with pics, hand history of big wins\losses, and any cool stories if I decide to snort some blow off a stripper's ass or anything exciting like that.

If things go well at $2\$5, I've decided to not be a pussy, I will test myself at $5\$10 the last week I am out there.

10k sitting here for any Las Vegas poker grinders or any Las Vegas tourist poker slobs to come get.

I have "No Fear" just like that crusty old 90's shirt I use for a cum rag now days says...

Two weeks boys, two weeks...
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01-02-2012 , 01:18 PM
Sounds like a fun thread. Please update win or lose.

I know lots of people have thrown in their $.02, but $10k is plenty to play 2/5nl for the whole trip w shots at 5/10nl. I would recommend Bellagio to get your feet wet at 5/10nl. They will have the most 5/10s and the max BI is $1500 so it won't play super deep.

Aria, Venetian, and Bellagio all update their cash game count consistently on Twitter and Wynn has an app that shows theirs w waiting list. So that will help you know where the most 2/5nl games are.

Gl grinding!
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01-02-2012 , 07:25 PM
Matt,

Thanks for the advice.

I know full well 10k is enough...(for 3-4 week trial run.)

I've been playing poker for years and have never run into anything more than a $4,000.00downswing.

Now, that being said... until recently I worked 48 hours a week. So, at most I would play poker 6-8 times a month. I remember one month a year or so ago where I lost 7 out of 8 sessions at $2/$5. I remember being sick to my stomach that I had lost 4k in a month's time.

The next time I sat down I bought in for $500, doubled, then had a dream scenario...

I had A/10 suited diamonds on the button, UTG popped it to $30.00, 3 callers including me, 2 of which had over $1,000.00 in front of them. I flopped the nut flush and two of the people in the hand that had me covered... (one flopped a set, one flopped top two pair)... all of the money got in on the turn. I made back over half of what I lost the month before in just ONE HAND.

If I lose $10,000 over the course of 3-4 weeks at $2/$5 and $5/$10 then it will be quite clear to me that I don't have what it takes to attempt to make a living off poker. I'll mainly be posting the big hands that I lose so those of you who are established players can judge my play/let me know if my play was spewy....

If things don't work out, no big deal, I'll be back to work in the auto industry as an Internet Sales Director by March. Which is something that I know I do quite well.
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01-02-2012 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LotGrinder


I saw someone wearing this exact shirt at the silverton hotel about an hour ago... was that you?
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01-02-2012 , 08:47 PM
GL OP

Like he mentioned 10K is something that he is willing to lose. So bankroll nits gtfo, esp if he plays a tight aggro style (and is not just saying)

Game select like crazy, look for the tables with chips flying vs just tight local grinders.

Having 20+ buyins for 2/5 is fine with your style. Just play in optimal times, and have someone that is poker smart (not poker degen or ignorant) that you can use as a touch stone to talk through some situations, and also someone that will give you an honest assessment when you are NOT playing optimally anymore. Remember each session is part of a larger one, do not chase losses, but optimize when you have a 6 sigma table available.

Do not immediately take a shot at 5/10, have some solid tangible winning sessions at 2/5 and take a shot with profits and a Hard stop loss.

Oh and avoid the pit/hookers/blow/stippers/degens
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01-02-2012 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
I saw someone wearing this exact shirt at the silverton hotel about an hour ago... was that you?
Lol...no...I won't be there until Jan. 13th.

I guarantee the guy who was wearing that shirt drinks 22oz Budweiser cans and is someone you don't want to **** with tho...
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01-02-2012 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Shagadelic
GL OP

Like he mentioned 10K is something that he is willing to lose. So bankroll nits gtfo, esp if he plays a tight aggro style (and is not just saying)

Game select like crazy, look for the tables with chips flying vs just tight local grinders.

Having 20+ buyins for 2/5 is fine with your style. Just play in optimal times, and have someone that is poker smart (not poker degen or ignorant) that you can use as a touch stone to talk through some situations, and also someone that will give you an honest assessment when you are NOT playing optimally anymore. Remember each session is part of a larger one, do not chase losses, but optimize when you have a 6 sigma table available.

Do not immediately take a shot at 5/10, have some solid tangible winning sessions at 2/5 and take a shot with profits and a Hard stop loss.

Oh and avoid the pit/hookers/blow/stippers/degens
I will only take a shot at 5\10 during the last week if I am up for the trip and I am playing with winnings. If I can't beat 2\5...definitely won't chase losses at 5\10...
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01-02-2012 , 10:38 PM
OP...it sounds like you have a fairly good plan.

Kindly keep in mind that the 5/10 game at the Bel is a small game, its capped at $1,500....the same cap as the Wynn's 2/5 game.
The Wynn's 2/5 game is the largest 2/5 in town, and the Bel's 5/10 game is the smallest 5/10 game in town...others are not capped -big boy poker, or very large caps.

Looking through the posting I haven't seen anything about a car. You got wheels in Vegas? A Taxi is ok, but between waiting for them and paying gobs to go short distances they suck. Renting a car is cheap, and will pay for itself in no time as you go from Casino to Casino looking for a good game -or just changing senery.

Make no mistake about the V, and don't be fooled into thinking its a place you'll commonly make good money. The place is full of local pro's...you'll face tough games and stiff compeition there.

There are more small stakes 1/2 games around town than any other level, and there is some good and bad that goes along w/ that. Higher varience percent, and when you really "do" soemthing you've only made a double up of $300 bucks. Many people have advised the 2/5 game -agree, however there are times when these games are limted or only a couple/few being spread and not much money to be made. Keep your options open...just as you mentioned in the original post -game selection is important, so it casino selection, what day & time of day all contribute to good game selection.

Best of luck to you and hope you enjoy the trip!

Feel free to PM me if you wanna met up sometime......my focus is also on the 2/5 and 5/10 cash games, plus I think I'll be playing that WSOP event at Caesars the thrid week of Jan
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01-03-2012 , 05:18 AM
You are very unlikely to lose 10k at 1-2 and 2-5 but don't be surprised if it happens playing 5-10
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01-03-2012 , 02:56 PM
2-5 can play beefy sometimes... if you get cocky or stubborn, that 1k buy in can be gone in a couple hands.... or less.

30 days is a long time to spread 2-5 if your buying in for 1k a day... if you're buying in for 100bb's your may find yourself playing a shirt stack strategy after a couple rounds.
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01-03-2012 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
2-5 can play beefy sometimes... if you get cocky or stubborn, that 1k buy in can be gone in a couple hands.... or less.

30 days is a long time to spread 2-5 if your buying in for 1k a day... if you're buying in for 100bb's your may find yourself playing a shirt stack strategy after a couple rounds.
I'm not going to do any 1k buy ins for the first 2 weeks.

The max buy in I am going to do is $500.00.

First 80 hours of poker I am going to play the Bellagio $2/$5 and MgM $2/5.

Then I will adjust my plan accordingly depending on how I am doing.

I'll be counting on some of you guys to judge the hands I lose as I admit I have no real life poker friends to bounce hand history off of...

Like I said, over the last 7-10 years the most I played a month is 7 or 8 times and I never made any poker friends that I thought were talented enough to point out flaws in my game/hands I played.

I can't wait to get felted for 10k or find out I have what it takes to average $35-$50 a hour playing poker. I'd be in Vegas right now but I still have family in town for the holidays.
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01-03-2012 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Under_the_Radar
OP...it sounds like you have a fairly good plan.

Kindly keep in mind that the 5/10 game at the Bel is a small game, its capped at $1,500....the same cap as the Wynn's 2/5 game.
The Wynn's 2/5 game is the largest 2/5 in town, and the Bel's 5/10 game is the smallest 5/10 game in town...others are not capped -big boy poker, or very large caps.

Looking through the posting I haven't seen anything about a car. You got wheels in Vegas? A Taxi is ok, but between waiting for them and paying gobs to go short distances they suck. Renting a car is cheap, and will pay for itself in no time as you go from Casino to Casino looking for a good game -or just changing senery.

Make no mistake about the V, and don't be fooled into thinking its a place you'll commonly make good money. The place is full of local pro's...you'll face tough games and stiff compeition there.

There are more small stakes 1/2 games around town than any other level, and there is some good and bad that goes along w/ that. Higher varience percent, and when you really "do" soemthing you've only made a double up of $300 bucks. Many people have advised the 2/5 game -agree, however there are times when these games are limted or only a couple/few being spread and not much money to be made. Keep your options open...just as you mentioned in the original post -game selection is important, so it casino selection, what day & time of day all contribute to good game selection.

Best of luck to you and hope you enjoy the trip!

Feel free to PM me if you wanna met up sometime......my focus is also on the 2/5 and 5/10 cash games, plus I think I'll be playing that WSOP event at Caesars the thrid week of Jan
Will PM you around the 13th.....!!! Thanks for the advice.
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01-03-2012 , 06:22 PM
I'll be around, pm me to.

FYI, 100BB(500$) will be short stacked in a vegas 2/5 game. yes, many players buy in for that amount but many buy in for the max... 1000-1500, and that puts you at somewhat of a stack disadvantage.

your more than likely going to have to step down to 1/2-1/3 if you find those BI's going away.
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