Could you imagine having it built into your seats? The revenue would be pure sickness. Especially at an NFL venue. So many options, so many degenerates that would go broke with their credit cards.

Ticket prices would go down, that's cool.

If the NFL ever put a team in LV, they'd ban all betting on that team, so something at the stadium/in your seats to allow betting wouldn't even be a consideration. The fear that a player would accept money to throw games would be big enough just if they let betting on that team happen in vegas, much less if they allowed the fans close enough to the sidelines to bet:

"Hey, 3rd stringer minimum salary cornerback who is now pressed into duty because of injuries...right now we're a touchdown short of the over, and your team is winning by three scores, and since your a 3rd stringer no one would blame you for getting burned by the other team's WR"...

That's the fear.

In-game wagering would be awesome. It's absolutely never happening for any major sport. Some minor sport may try it to try something different to help build a fan base - maybe major league lacrosse or roller hockey or indepedent minor league baseball, but the big 4 + MLS? Never.

The NFL may not vvigorously enforce the regulations on regular season games, or they may not have control over what advertising the local affiliates show during regular season games. But the Superbowl they have pretty much full control - there aren't even that many local ad slots during the Super Bowl anyway.

Edit: 2-month bump FTW!

I think Vegas had to jump through all kinds of hoops and regulations to get sportsbetting. The more they try to become like everyone else, and remove such things, its only logical that other areas will get sports betting too. It's like somewhere along the line, Vegas agreed to play by different rules to have different rules.

It's available online. Obv. high risk of cheating.

Has vegas even allowed sportsbetting outside of the sportsbook area yet? I heard some casinos were thinking about going to wireless betting devices, that you could place bets from anywhere in the casino/hotel.

It would seem that gaming commissions would restrict use to the sportsbook area.

there are some wireless devices out there but you have to be within a certain area of the casino

Correct. Gaming regulations require all sorts of controls (surveillance, for example) which effectively determine where you can bring these things. There are efforts going right now to expand the use of these to non-gaming areas of the hotel but I don't think it'll happen. As far as having in-seat stuff at a stadium, yeah we can all enjoy that fantasy for what it is.

Other states can't. The only ones who had the legal opportunity to allow it were New Jersey and Delaware, and neither took advantage. This ain't changing any time soon.

I'm sayin tho, if vegas was to get pro sports, and basically not do anything to separate themselves from other places in regard to life, I would imagine that other places would engage sportsbetting as well.

Not really sure what you mean by "separate themselves from other places in regard to life", but the legalities are what prevent other states from getting in on sports betting. The 1992 Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act banned states from allowing sports betting, with only a few states that already had betting laws on the books being exempt. So it isn't as simple as some state's legislature up and deciding to allow it, congress would have to repeal the law first.

There is already mobile and PC sportsbetting for people in NV. Here is Station Casino's version:

http://www.stationsportsconnection.com/

Since you can bet by mobile device within the state borders you could already be at a venue and live sports bet assuming it was in NV and betting wasn't blacked out.

I was trying to say that with sportsbetting, vegas probably had to play by different rules in regard to having pro sports, etc in its area. If they allow pro sports to come into nevada, I would imagine other states would say "they got both - why can't we?" and any laws that enabled Vegas to operate differently would get canned out of fairness to all states.

Wouldn't happen that way. Legally, one (pro sports) has nothing to do with the other (legal betting). Vegas currently doesn't have to play by any different rules in regards to having pro sports, it just hasn't been deemed a viable market by any of the sports teams/leagues.

And Montana, but that's not that important.

Plus, it's a wierd little quirk in that the ONLY thing that's allowed is whatever they had back when the law first passed - Delaware just tried to legalize betting on NFL games, but since the only thing they allowed back in 1992 was parlay bets, the Supreme Court held that the only thing they're allowed to legalize now is parlay bets.

Nevada's the only state that will ever have single game sports betting, until that law changes at the federal level, and considering how tough it's been for poker to battle through congress, I don't see the sports betting law being changed anytime soon.

Not many locals. Everyone seems to be a transplant and roots for home town team. City population is drying up.

Oregon is also allowed sports gambling under federal law. They once had it tied to their lottery. They also had parlay cards so one would assume they would run into the same problem DE had if they tried to bring it back and include single games.

I still own a Posse t-shirt I've hardly worn. Need to lose a few more pounds so I can wear it again on trips to Vegas.

The morons in Phoenix seem convinced they should lose hundreds of millions more, so the team will probably stay there, but if it moved, most of the talk was centered around returning to Winterpeg. I don't think Detroit (~3 hours away) would have nearly as much say as Toronto (<1 hour away) and Buffalo (~1 hour away) in a team coming to Hamilton, but even so, there's likely enough of a market for all of them. Returning to Quebec city is also talked about, and Seattle is another possibility. LV is a contender, but there's some competition.

It is, but...

Exactly. That's why it surprises me when people list the NBA as having one of the softest stances on gambling.

Don't even get me started on how we got ****ed over there, starting with the horrible draft restrictions they put on us and the Raptors. Spurs luck before meant we got screwed. Then they let Heisley buy the team with promises he wouldn't move them, only to let him do so a year later to a market that was no better.

As for comments about people not wanting to go to sporting events in other cities, I think there are lots of us "sports tourists". I'd definitely catch a game or two in Vegas if there were MBA or NHL teams there. Not saying that alone would be enough, but don't count the tourists out.

Isn't it that the palms can't have NBA betting because of the Maloofs?

are all UNLV home games on the board? I could swear I remember a day when something about events taking place in Vegas used to be off the board or something.

I thought Palms only had Kings games off the board.

UNLV games are always on the board AFAIK.

Also there are rumors in Atlanta that the Thrashers are eyeing Las Vegas.