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12-28-2015 , 09:05 PM
I'll be there for a few days starting this Friday on Jan 1st. I'm looking to play some 40-80 or 50-100 mix games, smaller is okay too. According to Bravo, it looks like Bellagio is my only option. Anyone has further insights beyond what Bravo says? And how's that game in Bellagio typically? I hear they play some super games and draw games? I've never played any super games but those could be fun.

Thank you.
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12-28-2015 , 11:15 PM
Bellagio IS by far your best bet, and yes the super games are great/fun. Aria is the only other option but its either 9-18 or 200-400 that run regularly. There's lots of other lower stakes around town but it sounds like its too low for you.

GL
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12-30-2015 , 05:21 PM
Thank you for the info! I don't mind playing small games at all if the selection is good. Nothing is showing on Bravo besides the Bellagio mix games though.
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12-30-2015 , 05:42 PM
I've never played the Aria 9/18 game but I've been told it's a lot of fun and low stress. The B 40/80 game is often full of regs who are pretty good but there's some people who just want to try something new as well. If you've never played super stud games before my only advice is play better starting hands than you might in conventional stud games. Expect to play 2-7 in many formats(2-7TD, badeucey, (super)razzdeucey).
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12-30-2015 , 09:05 PM
Thank you! I heard from a Vegas reg, not mix game reg though, who said B's mix game may not run or may run at only super high stakes this weekend, because of the crowds (presumably for New Year's). I guess I'll find out if that's true, but what are your experiences?
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12-30-2015 , 09:57 PM
Never been over New Years so no personal experience but I'd be surprised if 40/80 mix didn't have a table at the B, many of the regular players are there every day so the floors know them and will make sure they have a table if they're there at the usual time. I think the game gets going around 1 PM
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12-30-2015 , 11:17 PM
Any one know exactly what games are spread in the 40/80 mix?
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12-30-2015 , 11:24 PM
^^

Ha I literally called them and asked like an hour ago. They're playing right now 2-7, baduecey, badacey, stud8, o8. I may have missed one but those for sure. No super games tonight. Tons of split - pot games at least tonight.
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12-31-2015 , 12:04 AM
You can also find a lot of good info/games here:

search 'Las Vegas Mixed Games' on facebook and join- you'll be up to date on a ton of mixed game action.
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01-01-2016 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by yocrackattack
There are lots of other lower stakes around town but it sounds like its too low for you.

GL
Could you elaborate on this at all? I'd like to dabble in some low stakes mix. I don't play any mixed games ever, so to me, it'd be the same as playing BJ, hopefully a slow but consistent loss, but more fun.

I play 1-2, rarely 2-5 nl as to give an idea of my current stakes
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01-01-2016 , 03:31 PM
The Bellagio mix game ran for like a week straight and broke today when I'm arriving lol.
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01-01-2016 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by young dude
Thank you! I heard from a Vegas reg, not mix game reg though, who said B's mix game may not run or may run at only super high stakes this weekend, because of the crowds (presumably for New Year's). I guess I'll find out if that's true, but what are your experiences?
The Vegas reg is right so far, a 1500-3000 and a 200-400 mix game, nothing smaller
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01-02-2016 , 11:09 AM
Just got out of the 50-100 mix at Bellagio. They played 2-7, baduecey, badacey, badugi, stud8, o8, super stud HL no qualifier, super razzducey, and pot limit big o8 (capped at $1,000 bet per player per hand). I think that's all.

I've never played any super games or PL big o8, which plays bigger than the limit games. Left up a bit, was fun.

If tonight was representative of the typical game, I think the game at Horseshoe Hammond is a bit better. However, the worst players at Hammond is a bit worse, and the best players are a bit better at Hammond, IMO.
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01-02-2016 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by young dude
Just got out of the 50-100 mix at Bellagio. They played 2-7, baduecey, badacey, badugi, stud8, o8, super stud HL no qualifier, super razzducey, and pot limit big o8 (capped at $1,000 bet per player per hand). I think that's all.

I've never played any super games or PL big o8, which plays bigger than the limit games. Left up a bit, was fun.

If tonight was representative of the typical game, I think the game at Horseshoe Hammond is a bit better. However, the worst players at Hammond is a bit worse, and the best players are a bit better at Hammond, IMO.

Oh there was also ace to five triple draw. Never played it, but no learning curve like I had with super games, especially stud HL no qualifier.

Another thing worth noting is they deal seven handed (one deal out in split pot draw games, no deal outs in single pot draw games). At Horseshoe Hammond they deal eight handed with two deal outs for all draw games. I personally like the 8-6 structure a bit more.

Hopefully the gf lets me out again tonight :P

Side note, appreciate the complimentary Fiji water, definitely a step up from Horseshoe Hammond's own brand bottle water (not that I taste a difference, but still). And overall Bellagio just feels more luxurious.
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01-02-2016 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by young dude
Just got out of the 50-100 mix at Bellagio. They played 2-7, baduecey, badacey, badugi, stud8, o8, super stud HL no qualifier, super razzducey, and pot limit big o8 (capped at $1,000 bet per player per hand). I think that's all.
Prior to this past summer I played in this game semi-regularly. Usually its Super Stud8, and sometimes H/L No Qualifier is not included. I would usually ask to have A-5 TD removed (but rarely won that request) because to play that game extremely well you have to be rather nitty compared to 2-7 TD. I never experienced big bet games included in the mix until it got 150/300 or bigger - and when that occurs it's usually because the player requesting it is a massive dog at the other games or else the mix game regs won't agree to adding it. I assume you were playing 25/50 blinds of PL Big O8? If so thats not a very big game with a 1K cap - and is really easy to adjust to but the swings could be huge I must admit if 50/100 limit is about as big as your willing to usually play.

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If tonight was representative of the typical game, I think the game at Horseshoe Hammond is a bit better. However, the worst players at Hammond is a bit worse, and the best players are a bit better at Hammond, IMO.
If I knew your lineup (via PM only), I could give you an accurate assessment because I know many (but not all) of the Hammond mix game regs. The Bellagio mix regs come in all shapes and sizes, but nobody is horrifically bad.... its mostly a measurement of decent to good. Only 1-2 players close to world class status and they are not in the games as often (I am not including myself in this assessment, I'm not playing that often lately).

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Oh there was also ace to five triple draw. Never played it, but no learning curve like I had with super games, especially stud HL no qualifier.
A-5 is actually more frustrating than 2-7 once you know 2-7 really well. Hand values change, for example you may be capping with an 8642x draw on the first round or feel very comfortable with 275xx in 2-7, but you should be very cautious with an A56 draw, an A76 draw is basically just a stealing hand, and A763 is not as awesome as 8642x. Starting with A2xxx is more valuable in A-5 than starting with 23xxx in 2-7, and starting without an A makes your hand go way down in value in A-5 where as you don't necessarily need a 2 in 2-7. Thats why I said above its a nittier game - vs looser players you should adjust accordingly but not lose sight of these tighter requirements.

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Another thing worth noting is they deal seven handed (one deal out in split pot draw games, no deal outs in single pot draw games). At Horseshoe Hammond they deal eight handed with two deal outs for all draw games. I personally like the 8-6 structure a bit more.
Disagree. I HATE having to sit out for 2 hands in a row. And its not good for the action players, they want to be in action. Bellagio's process is far superior.

See you soon!
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01-04-2016 , 04:35 PM
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I assume you were playing 25/50 blinds of PL Big O8?
What? That is the blinds of the limit games in a 50/100 game. Why would the blinds be the same for the PL game? My random guess would be 10/20 blinds.
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01-06-2016 , 02:44 AM
It's usually 50% stakes with a cap, and the cap is pretty small.
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01-06-2016 , 06:56 AM
Having a 2 in deuce-seven is really important.

Making the big blind $20 in a mix game played with $25 chips doesn't make sense.

Nice to hear OP jump into the bigger mixed game cold not having played super variants or H/L no qualifier! I did the same when I first started. It was a blast. Great that you were up.
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