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08-06-2021 , 05:11 AM
No, fatality rates by demographic are clearly the only consideration that should be made when facing a worldwide pandemic.

Lest we implement such draconian measures as getting a vaccine and breathing through a little material while indoors in crowded venues. Obviously.

To be honest, I'm in Vegas now but this whole thing has me so angry I might leave just to personally spite the idiot governor and stand up for my freedumbs as a proud American. This is simply outrageous!
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08-06-2021 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Duncelanas
To be honest, I'm in Vegas now but this whole thing has me so angry I might leave just to personally spite the idiot governor and stand up for my freedumbs as a proud American. This is simply outrageous!
lol! When the trolling is perfect. Well done, sir.
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08-06-2021 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Duncelanas
No, fatality rates by demographic are clearly the only consideration that should be made when facing a worldwide pandemic.

Lest we implement such draconian measures as getting a vaccine and breathing through a little material while indoors in crowded venues. Obviously.

To be honest, I'm in Vegas now but this whole thing has me so angry I might leave just to personally spite the idiot governor and stand up for my freedumbs as a proud American. This is simply outrageous!
If this liberal pinko commie socialist nonsense keeps up, pretty soon we'll have further outrages such as that climate change hoax, the government taking away our assault weapons and rocket launchers, and Black people being allowed to vote.

To stop it all, immediately send all your money to Dear Leader President Donald J. Trump's reelection fund. He promises, he'll put it to good use.

Speaking of fatality rates by demographic, Florida and Texas are fortunate to have had zero Covid fatalities since the beginning of the pandemic. I know, because Tucker Carlson told me so.
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08-06-2021 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by namisgr11
Do you know how many of the millions of Americans under the age of 44 infected with SARS-CoV2 suffer long-lasting morbidity and dysfunction? Or how many of those Americans under the age of 44 passed their infections to another person who either died or suffered long-lasting functional problems?

It's also worth remembering that nearly all of the cases of infection for those under age 44 that occurred beginning in the second quarter of this year were preventable.

Finally, are you advocating that children no longer be immunized against measles, mumps, rubella, polio, typhoid, or tuberculosis because their fatality rates for these preventable infectious diseases are low?
It's amazing that some nutcases have been advocating for not protecting children because only a few of them would die, so what's the big deal.

Amazing and profoundly immoral.
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08-06-2021 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by madrobin
It's amazing that some nutcases have been advocating for not protecting children because only a few of them would die, so what's the big deal.

Amazing and profoundly immoral.
I agree. I also HATE when people say stuff like: "It's only the old people dying!". Old people don't get to live a long life and die of natural causes?
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08-06-2021 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by madrobin
It's amazing that some nutcases have been advocating for not protecting children because only a few of them would die, so what's the big deal.

Amazing and profoundly immoral.
Not only are you a racist but you are intellectually dishonest racist. Congrats.
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08-06-2021 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WiCane
Not only are you a racist but you are intellectually dishonest racist. Congrats.
You are not only an idiot and a jerk, but an intellectually dishonest idiot and jerk. And so's your mother.

(I felt disinclined to copy the mangled syntax of the abovementioned idiot and jerk's post.)
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08-06-2021 , 07:18 PM
Looks like Clark county new cases growth rate is starting to break. 7 and 14 day average is down. If this keeps up while Florida and others keep rising uncontrollably Nevada is going to be a model for masking and getting your **** together. Stay strong NV!


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08-06-2021 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by WiCane
Not only are you a racist but you are intellectually dishonest racist. Congrats.
You compared vaccine mandates to concentration camps in either this thread or the other one I dont want to see anything from you on intellectual dishonesty
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08-06-2021 , 11:58 PM
Seriously mods, I thought political talk would get a ban? Ohhhhhh, that’s right, unless it’s liberal political talk, then it’s ok. You’re all jokes, at least try to make the appearance that you’re being impartial.
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08-07-2021 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperGrover123
Seriously mods, I thought political talk would get a ban? Ohhhhhh, that’s right, unless it’s liberal political talk, then it’s ok. You’re all jokes, at least try to make the appearance that you’re being impartial.
And I'm ROFL that you don't seem to realize that this remark of yours is political.

I've seen hundreds of conservative-oriented political posts on these forums in just the past couple of weeks. So you should stop the whining about being persecuted. I know your wet dream is that everything you don't agree with should be snuffed out. I doubt that's going to happen anywhere unless Insurrection II is successful.
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08-07-2021 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by gcoho
Looks like Clark county new cases growth rate is starting to break. 7 and 14 day average is down. If this keeps up while Florida and others keep rising uncontrollably Nevada is going to be a model for masking and getting your **** together. Stay strong NV!
The real question, though, is whether Vegas visitors "stay strong." Unless mask enforcement is much more stringent now than it was in previous phases of the pandemic, Vegas will depend on visitors to be responsible and thoughtful--which means that it's already lost the war.

The only thing that will work right now is vaccine mandates. No proof of vaccination, no come into de casino and lose de money. So many people are jonesing to lose their cash that I think that this measure alone would result in tens of thousands of no-vaxxers changing their minds.

I mean, the vaccines change you into a three-headed space alien, but if they allow you to play the slots, it's worth it.
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08-07-2021 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by madrobin
And I'm ROFL that you don't seem to realize that this remark of yours is political.

I've seen hundreds of conservative-oriented political posts on these forums in just the past couple of weeks. So you should stop the whining about being persecuted. I know your wet dream is that everything you don't agree with should be snuffed out. I doubt that's going to happen anywhere unless Insurrection II is successful.
You have a problem with reading comprehension, don’t you? That’s ok, I’m sure you can get the help you so desperately need.
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08-07-2021 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by gcoho
Looks like Clark county new cases growth rate is starting to break. 7 and 14 day average is down. If this keeps up while Florida and others keep rising uncontrollably Nevada is going to be a model for masking and getting your **** together. Stay strong NV!
Weren't there a large number of room cancellations after the mask mandate was announced? I assume part of the drop is the reduction in visitors.
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08-07-2021 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by madrobin
The real question, though, is whether Vegas visitors "stay strong." Unless mask enforcement is much more stringent now than it was in previous phases of the pandemic, Vegas will depend on visitors to be responsible and thoughtful--which means that it's already lost the war.

The only thing that will work right now is vaccine mandates. No proof of vaccination, no come into de casino and lose de money. So many people are jonesing to lose their cash that I think that this measure alone would result in tens of thousands of no-vaxxers changing their minds.

I mean, the vaccines change you into a three-headed space alien, but if they allow you to play the slots, it's worth it.
Instead of harking back to your 0-11 Vegas Tour, which is of dubious credibility, how about you favor everyone with another, current tour to the same 11 casinos to update your assessment of mask enforcement .... tht is if you are in Las Vegas.

Even if you are NOT in Las Vegas, why not present a list of the 11 casinos you surveyed "last time", so someone really in Las Vegas currently can update folks?
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08-07-2021 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Randall Stevens
Weren't there a large number of room cancellations after the mask mandate was announced? I assume part of the drop is the reduction in visitors.
Sounds like a sound policy decision for Nevadans if your assumption is accurate.

To paraphrase Emma Lazurus and Monty Python:

“Keep your tired, your invincibly ignorant,
Your huddled mask-less yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Keep these, the un-vaccinated, science-deniers from my casinos,"

" I don't want to talk to you no more,
you empty headed animal food trough wiper.
I fart in your general direction ”
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08-07-2021 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
Instead of harking back to your 0-11 Vegas Tour, which is of dubious credibility, how about you favor everyone with another, current tour to the same 11 casinos to update your assessment of mask enforcement .... tht is if you are in Las Vegas.

Even if you are NOT in Las Vegas, why not present a list of the 11 casinos you surveyed "last time", so someone really in Las Vegas currently can update folks?
You called me a liar when I said I'd been in Vegas and visited those 11 casinos, so why should I expect you to respond civilly if I provided such a list? Also, I never said that I was in Vegas right now, including being "really" in Vegas, whatever that means, as opposed to simply being there. You're a little muddled sometimes.

You've forfeited the privilege of receiving any information from me. Feel free to say that proves I was imagining the whole thing, and yes, LYING LYING LYING.

Go away.
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08-07-2021 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Randall Stevens
Weren't there a large number of room cancellations after the mask mandate was announced? I assume part of the drop is the reduction in visitors.
Covid cases don't develop instantaneously after contact. The mask mandate is now seven days old. Therefore, any reduction in visitors would only have occurred very recently, and wouldn't affect reported cases to any significant degree--not yet.

We'll know if the mask mandate made any difference in a couple of weeks. Of course, there could be two effects: a reduction in visitation, and a reduction in transmission of the virus due to increased masking.

I haven't heard of any tsunami of room reservation cancellations; so it might be anecdotal rather than actual. An internet search reveals several conservative bloggers as well as Fox News breathlessly "reporting" that Vegas was experiencing trillions of room cancellations and Vegas was turning into a ghost town and Sisolak should be shot. What cracked me up was that most of those sources "reported" that two to four days before the new mask mandate was announced.
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08-07-2021 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by madrobin
You called me a liar when I said I'd been in Vegas and visited those 11 casinos, so why should I expect you to respond civilly if I provided such a list? Also, I never said that I was in Vegas right now, including being "really" in Vegas, whatever that means, as opposed to simply being there. You're a little muddled sometimes.

You've forfeited the privilege of receiving any information from me. Feel free to say that proves I was imagining the whole thing, and yes, LYING LYING LYING.

Go away.
lol, @ "privilege".

Imagining the whole thing ? No. I do think you made up your 0 - 11 non-enforcement claim and are well aware it was specious.

I was asking you to post a list of the 11 casinos, so that someone inclined to do so might check their actual current status re enforcement of mask rules.
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08-07-2021 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
lol, @ "privilege".

Imagining the whole thing ? No. I do think you made up your 0 - 11 non-enforcement claim and are well aware it was specious.

I was asking you to post a list of the 11 casinos, so that someone inclined to do so might check their actual current status re enforcement of mask rules.
Then I was right, your demanding a list was disingenuous. Why would you place any value on such a list if you don't believe I have ever been to Vegas in my life and am actually posting from a Siberian prison camp? Lol, as you like so very much to say, lol, lol, lol.

(By the way, NO ONE who types "lol" is ever actually laughing out loud. Lol.)

But you know what? I can't make you believe me, because what I say clashes with your preconceived notions. And frankly...I don't care. Dear Leader in 2024!!!!!! Stop the steal! Steal the stop!
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08-08-2021 , 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Randall Stevens
Weren't there a large number of room cancellations after the mask mandate was announced? I assume part of the drop is the reduction in visitors.
Friday was busy but on Thursday the Strip was far less busy than I had seen it in a long time.
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08-08-2021 , 03:45 AM
Does the county or city of Las Vegas have any financial incentives to encourage visitors and residents to get vaccinated? A cash lottery or cash payment? It would seem the ideal place to make it worth's one's while with a small amount of money or the chance to win a large amount of money to convince holdouts to be vaccinated.
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08-08-2021 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by madrobin
Then I was right, your demanding a list was disingenuous. Why would you place any value on such a list if you don't believe I have ever been to Vegas in my life and am actually posting from a Siberian prison camp? Lol, as you like so very much to say, lol, lol, lol.

(By the way, NO ONE who types "lol" is ever actually laughing out loud. Lol.)

But you know what? I can't make you believe me, because what I say clashes with your preconceived notions. And frankly...I don't care. Dear Leader in 2024!!!!!! Stop the steal! Steal the stop!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

..... and no, I don't believe the 0-11 results you reported from whenever you made your survey.

However, a repeat visit to the same 11 casinos you claim to have surveyed could provide a reliable set of current data, rendering moot whether or not your own report was a work of fiction or not.
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08-08-2021 , 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by namisgr11
Does the county or city of Las Vegas have any financial incentives to encourage visitors and residents to get vaccinated? A cash lottery or cash payment? It would seem the ideal place to make it worth's one's while with a small amount of money or the chance to win a large amount of money to convince holdouts to be vaccinated.
Yes, as to residents. Not sure as to visitors, but a visitor can easily get vaccinated for free and rather than gamble with their health.

The problem in Clark County is complicated by the influx of visitors from other places, who include non-vaccinated, "no-mask" yahoos in their midst.
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08-08-2021 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by namisgr11
Does the county or city of Las Vegas have any financial incentives to encourage visitors and residents to get vaccinated? A cash lottery or cash payment? It would seem the ideal place to make it worth's one's while with a small amount of money or the chance to win a large amount of money to convince holdouts to be vaccinated.
It's been happening, they're giving away 5 mil or something to 'random' (?) vaxxed winners
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