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04-08-2018 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pooper
don't ask how the sausage is made. I didn't
Jesus Christ, if it wasn't for all the behind the scenes equity this clown likely gets, he would be long gone.

This dude actually tweeted that?
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04-08-2018 , 04:22 PM
So on the HPT deal, either they or Westgate had a guaranteed prize pool they offered and as the start became close instead of eating a larger amount to make up the difference, they offered half price entries to try to recoup some of their loss.

Is this what happened?
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04-08-2018 , 04:23 PM
Troopers twitter is some good gossip.

Troops defense is weak. Its the "don't blame the messenger" excuse.

A guy says "hey tweet this out", and dumbass just does it without any thought.
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04-08-2018 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
Westgate made a general announcement in their sportsbook about the discount, so if this was supposed to be some super secret cover-up, that's not exactly the way to do it. In any event, this is a Westgate/HPT issue, not a Trooper issue. In fact, other people were tweeting about it in real time as well. Instead of creating imaginary scenarios in your head about what transpired, you might try actually reading about it. There's an entire thread devoted to this issue, including a debate of whether it was legitimate to offer the discount to certain people, in NVG.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-here-1708771/
I read that thread and I also read a bunch of stuff on my Facebook wall about this from last night and this morning. It seems like Westgate is a bunch of crooks who (whether legally or illegally) are giving random people/friends discounts on tournament buy-ins which may or may not be funded thru their promotional funds.

I remember other rooms like PHo and Palms having issues with wrongful distribution of their poker funds. I hope this gets investigated properly by the gaming commission or whoever is responsible for this in Las Vegas.

Additionally, this became a Trooper issue when he tweeted out about this and told people to DM him to get the discount. He became more than just the messenger. He actively promoted these shady and possibly illegal tactics on his Twitter and even discussed details with whoever DM'd him.

Furthermore, if it is a Westgate thing as you say, then it becomes a Trooepr thing when he works with them and gets paid by them for Trooper Thursdays. Does his cut as a prop player/game host come out of the promo fund too?

Clearly the smart thing would be to explain what happened but I'm sure Trooper will ignore all questions, will delete all comments, and will play dumb and blame haters for bringing it up.

Didn't the Aruba poker tournament that he got paid to promote also have issues with people at the final table not getting paid and then Trooper refusing to talk about it or acknowledging the problem for ages until he finally said something to the effect of "I don't know what happened and I didn't do anything wrong! Get off my back for getting paid by this shady business."

Seems like we might see some more of that ignore and deny strategy on this.
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04-08-2018 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
First of all, I'm not saying what they did was right; I'm merely saying that this is a Westgate issue and not a Trooper issue, and that mrduck's post about some super secret cover-up involving Trooper is laughably ridiculous (as are most of his posts).

Secondly, I disagree with your statement that there is no debate in that thread about whether what Westgate did was "legitimate." While most there agree that what Westgate did was ****ty, here are posts from two different people in that thread who see absolutely nothing wrong with it. Although both include the statement that there apparently was nothing illegal about Westgate's actions, they go on to make the case that there was absolutely nothing wrong with it on its face either.
Trooper works for the Westgate/is paid by them to promote their room so this is a Trooper issue. Trooper tweeted out advertising this shady and wrong tactic by the Westgate so it is a Trooper issue. Trooper communicated with people thru DM's about this issue so it is a Trooper issue.

If Trooper explains what actually happened, then it will not be a cover up. If he ignore questions about it, deletes comments in his YouTube about it, and just says that he doesn't know how the sausage is made, it will be a cover up by him because he is now involved with this stuff.

If he feels that it is wrong and the fault is entirely on the Westgate, and not on him, I'm sure he wouldn't want to be associated with them anymore.

Who am I kidding? He will shut up and say the Westgate is the best room ever (even though he NEVER plays there unless he is paid like on trooper Thursday) just to get his weekly rent money. Trooper has the integrity of a little kid enticed by a piece of candy.
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04-08-2018 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rrb
100% agree with you, but its just like being 45 minutes late for the weigh-in/weight lost challenge. Its on a need to know basis and we dont need to know.

No job, no kids, no wife, why did he big time Kraut like that

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Some people would view having "no kids, no wife" as a positive in life
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04-08-2018 , 05:15 PM
The Hard Rock in Tampa used to (maybe still do) use a portion of the promo fund (Jackpot drop), to make up guaranteed tourneys when they fall short, saying it was a promo.

That always seemed weird to me and I don't know if it was illegal for the state run rooms in Florida or not, Hard Rock is run by indian tribe and not subject to the same rules anyway but generally try to follow the state rules(most of them).
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04-08-2018 , 05:27 PM
Trooper's twitter is hilarious. Even with all of the deleted posts, his replies to everyone asking him why he promoted such a shady deal in the poker world is hilarious. He really digs himself deeper into a hole and tries to play dumb saying he didn't know anything.

His replies have no logic and he easily gets wrapped up in throwing verbal threats at random people on twitter. His excuses are hilariously illogical. It really makes you wonder how dumb he really is or if he's just playing dumb.

It's funny how all this shady stuff always happens with Trooper and he plays the innocent victim card every time even though he usually gets paid on most of his shady instances.

I'm enjoying watching this train wreck.
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04-08-2018 , 06:00 PM
From Trooper's twitter:

@PhilCooper111 - My worry is that given the tourney didn’t make guarantee, the money wasn’t being put in by anyone since the casino had to pay out the guarantee anyway? Just seems a few people got in half price to reduce total overlay. If that’s true, raises ethical questions surely?

@TheTrooper97 - I agree with this. I didn't know there was an overlay. I'll definitely think twice before tweeting out any offers or promotions from anyone. I still don't know the details
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04-08-2018 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EpicEsquire
Some people would view having "no kids, no wife" as a positive in life
I think the guy was suggesting that, what excuse can trooper have for being late when he doesnt have any responsibilities

But didnt trooper suggest it was a death or someones something that made him late, trying to make 'the haters' feel bad?
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04-08-2018 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by zkagz
From Trooper's twitter:

@PhilCooper111 - My worry is that given the tourney didn’t make guarantee, the money wasn’t being put in by anyone since the casino had to pay out the guarantee anyway? Just seems a few people got in half price to reduce total overlay. If that’s true, raises ethical questions surely?

@TheTrooper97 - I agree with this. I didn't know there was an overlay. I'll definitely think twice before tweeting out any offers or promotions from anyone. I still don't know the details
Of course Trooper still does't know the details. He never knows anything when something bad happens. He's always innocent and bad things just happen around him thru no fault on his account. Poor guy!

He tweets out what he did, the incident explodes, Trooper ends up tweeting more in a day than he has in the last week, but he still doesn't know the details. Since his "partners" at Westgate (his words, not mine) are behind this, hasn't he spoken to them at all? I seem to know more from Twitter and Facebook looking in from the outside than he knows from being in the inner circle. Heck, he tweeted out the news to lots of people and even DM'd with people about this "promotion" (I use that term very loosely.) You figure he knew something when he was tweeting and DMing with people about this.

He obviously is not admitting everything he knows because he was probably coached to not say any details like other Westgate employees were told to keep quiet.
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04-08-2018 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by zkagz
From Trooper's twitter:

@PhilCooper111 - My worry is that given the tourney didn’t make guarantee, the money wasn’t being put in by anyone since the casino had to pay out the guarantee anyway? Just seems a few people got in half price to reduce total overlay. If that’s true, raises ethical questions surely?

@TheTrooper97 - I agree with this. I didn't know there was an overlay. I'll definitely think twice before tweeting out any offers or promotions from anyone. I still don't know the details
This after Trooper called people '******ed' and denied any wrong doing multiple times.

Trooper claims to be some kind of genius, and just another situation trooper is involved with in a negative way.
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04-08-2018 , 06:47 PM
Has anybody watched jesse capps new vlog on pokernews YT channel? I like it
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04-08-2018 , 06:59 PM
Pokerkraut's new vlog was pretty good. A very nice moment in the beginning of it as well. He seems extremely gracious of the gifts that everyone sends him.

Trooper's vlog has become The Peter Principle in full effect.
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04-08-2018 , 07:00 PM
It would be nice to see Neeme and Brad Owen boycott the Westgate because of this
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04-08-2018 , 07:01 PM
This is another case where had everyone's knight in shining armor (Boski) done the exact same thing, or something similar (like shilling for a room that allows bots) everyone would be praising the guy for shouting out an unbeatable deal.

Predictable posters are, predictable.

It's been below average cold here in the East this spring, certainly Trooper has something to do with it, or at least he knows about it and isn't coming out in opposition of it. F that guy.
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04-08-2018 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pensfan
This is another case where had everyone's knight in shining armor (Boski) done the exact same thing, or something similar (like shilling for a room that allows bots) everyone would be praising the guy for shouting out an unbeatable deal.

Predictable posters are, predictable.

It's been below average cold here in the East this spring, certainly Trooper has something to do with it, or at least he knows about it and isn't coming out in opposition of it. F that guy.
Has Boski ever portrayed to be different then he actually is? (apart from calling himself an Alpha which he clearly inst)

Trooper continuously harps on about integrity and honesty, etc etc
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04-08-2018 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsi
Has Boski ever portrayed to be different then he actually is? (apart from calling himself an Alpha which he clearly inst)

Trooper continuously harps on about integrity and honesty, etc etc
So what you are saying is, I'm exactly right. It isn't WHAT was done, it was WHO that did it that matters.

Thank you.
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04-08-2018 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pensfan
So what you are saying is, I'm exactly right. It isn't WHAT was done, it was WHO that did it that matters.

Thank you.
Actually Boskie has received plenty of **** on here for supporting ACR but basically anybody who supports any of these online poker sites is doing the exact same thing because they are all shady. so you can't blame boskie anymore then you can blame someone who touts ignition, pokerstars, or whatever the **** those twins who do The Breakdown are touting that week.

So until you can show us something similar Boskie has done and didn't receive flak, you have no case.
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04-08-2018 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
Actually Boskie has received plenty of **** on here for supporting ACR but basically anybody who supports any of these online poker sites is doing the exact same thing because they are all shady. so you can't blame boskie anymore then you can blame someone who touts ignition, pokerstars, or whatever the **** those twins who do The Breakdown are touting that week.

So until you can show us something similar Boskie has done and didn't receive flak, you have no case.
You have a loose definition of "plenty". Also, I do not believe this was a move invented by The Westgate, other examples have been given so don't the same rules apply as you used above?

The people need a hero, and a villain.
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04-08-2018 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pensfan
You have a loose definition of "plenty". Also, I do not believe this was a move invented by The Westgate, other examples have been given so don't the same rules apply as you used above?

The people need a hero, and a villain.

Didn't Vince McMahon say that? Except they call them a Face and a Heal.
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04-08-2018 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Didn't Vince McMahon say that? Except they call them a Face and a Heal.
Am I the only one who wants to see Boski and The Trooper in the ring? Some Heal to Heal combat?

The Beta vs The Trainwreck!
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04-08-2018 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CactusJack
Am I the only one who wants to see Boski and The Trooper in the ring? Some Heal to Heal combat?

The Beta vs The Trainwreck!
boom
well put
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04-08-2018 , 08:32 PM
You have better chances seeing them two in an actual boxing ring than a full ring poker game together.

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04-08-2018 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
Of course Trooper still does't know the details.
Isn't it generally safe to assume that Trooper knows nothing on any given topic?
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