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10-27-2017 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bonomo's ears
Westgate is itself the last monorail stop northbound before you have to exit anyway at SLS (ex-Sahara). Out of all the stops it also might be the one that's closest to the actual front hotel entrance, as all others are a hike out back
Great! Thanks for the Info.

The Westgate is the old Las Vegas Hilton?

Many many moons ago I went there when I used to sports bet..they used to have a huge sportsbook there..
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10-27-2017 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
Great! Thanks for the Info.

The Westgate is the old Las Vegas Hilton?

Many many moons ago I went there when I used to sports bet..they used to have a huge sportsbook there..
They have one of the nicest sports books now. Guess what?? Its right next to the poker room. Don't get that itch. Have fun and report back.
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10-27-2017 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Railtrailed
They have one of the nicest sports books now. Guess what?? Its right next to the poker room. Don't get that itch. Have fun and report back.
Willdo.

Looking forward to visiting some casinos I've never been to, or haven't for years. Besides Westgate, I want to check out SLS and Stratosphere..last time I was there it was Vegas World..Bob Stupak used to mail all kinds of free hotel room and food/beverage offers back in the day.

Doesn't surprise me if Westgate kept the old LV Hilton Sportsbook..that was the best part of the casino back then.

Hope the Feather plays in the game Sunday evening..he seems like he would be a lot of fun to have at your table..
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10-27-2017 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by patriots
Trooper won around 5- 700 because he was a complete nit
Not to be invited back

Also brad and neeme should not get behind trooper because they will get some shrapnel
I'm tempted to unsubscribe just for not explaining why trooper catches ****
I wouldn't be so sure of that. If he increased viewershio and subscribers, they'll defiantly bring him back.
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10-27-2017 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
I wouldn't be so sure of that. If he increased viewershio and subscribers, they'll defiantly bring him back.
the booth seemed to be questioning if the viewers between Twitch and Youtube were records. It would seem the loggers subscribers did in fact bring a nice viewer surge.
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10-27-2017 , 02:19 PM
At the end of the stream they said trooper made a $47 profit.

I watched about 30-40 minutes of the stream, I didn't see trooper play a single hand . He folded A8 suited in LP to a mp $30 raise. Absolutely terrible for the show. Just drank coffee the whole time.
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10-27-2017 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rtd353
At the end of the stream they said trooper made a $47 profit.

I watched about 30-40 minutes of the stream, I didn't see trooper play a single hand . He folded A8 suited in LP to a mp $30 raise. Absolutely terrible for the show. Just drank coffee the whole time.
It was essentially a 5/5/10 game which is probably the biggest game Trooper has ever played in. Very natural to nit it up in that situation. It would be dumb for him to play high variance in a game he is not rolled to play even if he sacrifices some equity doing so. I give him credit for getting himself out there, taking some risks and trying to build his brand.
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10-27-2017 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wilson1560
It was essentially a 5/5/10 game which is probably the biggest game Trooper has ever played in. Very natural to nit it up in that situation. It would be dumb for him to play high variance in a game he is not rolled to play even if he sacrifices some equity doing so. I give him credit for getting himself out there, taking some risks and trying to build his brand.
I agree with this view more than the others. Sure, he could have loosened it up a little. But he was playing in a much higher stakes game then what he was used to. I am sure most of us would tighten it up if in the same situation.
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10-27-2017 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wilson1560
It was essentially a 5/5/10 game which is probably the biggest game Trooper has ever played in. Very natural to nit it up in that situation. It would be dumb for him to play high variance in a game he is not rolled to play even if he sacrifices some equity doing so. I give him credit for getting himself out there, taking some risks and trying to build his brand.
I agree with this view more than the others. Sure, he could have loosened it up a little. But he was playing in a much higher stakes game then what he was used to. I am sure most of us would tighten it up if in the same situation. I mean, we are all not like Ramsey who probably has a rich uncle in Saudi Arabia funding him so he can play like a maniac
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10-27-2017 , 03:41 PM
he is also in the middle of a losing streak. I give him credit for being a sport and sticking it out, as bad as he's been "running" in 1/2 lately. He was pretty much the center of attention for the past few days.
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10-27-2017 , 03:54 PM
He didn’t nit it up when he was playing 5-10 at Bellagio on a Tuesday night though FWIW. He basically just spewed his money away and criticized the idea of being extra cautious.

I still don’t get that $300 call he made with JT on the flop. The rest of the night he just looked card dead and I thought he made the correct folds PF in the hands I watched.
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10-27-2017 , 05:16 PM
I think they would probably invite Trooper back for a $5/5 or $2/5 game and definitely for a $1/2 game. Even though he nitted it up (except for the occasional tilt spew), he was good for their viewership.
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10-27-2017 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by IAVegasLover
I don't think Andrew and Brad are scared to diss Trooper...I think it's more the fact that they are both good dudes who aren't out to rip people just for laughs.

not looking to rip him..bart hanson the announcer asked both of them why the chat is so hard on trooper{not knowing}and both of them said "i have no idea"

thats straight nonsense..what you do if you dont or cant explain troopers haters at least tell the many people watching to go to 2+2 and read this thread.figure it out for themselves
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10-27-2017 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
I think they would probably invite Trooper back for a $5/5 or $2/5 game and definitely for a $1/2 game. Even though he nitted it up (except for the occasional tilt spew), he was good for their viewership.
I'm sure they would have Trooper back in whatever game he wanted to play.

LATB streams Monday-Friday, generally speaking, with games as low as 1/3NL..which is really god-awful boring to watch, IMO.

I guess if they comped Trooper for his appearance, it was just the standard hotel room he showed in his vlog..it sounded like he had to buy his own food, which is why he bought the cheap burrito and the $2 Happy Hour Wings, Quesadilla, and Fries garbage the other night.

That buffet they took all the players to did look really good..
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10-27-2017 , 06:31 PM
I assume they paid him something for the commentary as well. Or did they just comp him the rooms and maybe some food with the idea that the exposure on the stream would be valueable enough for him?
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10-27-2017 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Noles1724
the booth seemed to be questioning if the viewers between Twitch and Youtube were records. It would seem the loggers subscribers did in fact bring a nice viewer surge.
I'd guess it was 2nd only to Doug Polk week for LATB and not a distant 2nd either. Vloggers produced views for BellagioPOTS as well. Hopefully they are able to be successful at Westgate, which could lead to bigger things.

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Originally Posted by rtd353
At the end of the stream they said trooper made a $47 profit.

I watched about 30-40 minutes of the stream, I didn't see trooper play a single hand . He folded A8 suited in LP to a mp $30 raise. Absolutely terrible for the show. Just drank coffee the whole time.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the hand selection Trooper displayed was similar to that of the majority of winning live low stakes grinders. His VPIP was so low last night because he was card dead. It should be noted that his VPIP was not low the previous night. He also got super unlucky in spots such as when he got JJ and had to fold based on the action. Many lesser players who were completely card dead would have ripped it in there like he did with 66 the previous night, but this night he maintained his discipline and made the correct fold.

Boring poker tends to be winning poker, particularly in the lower stakes. Good winning LAGs are very rare in the low stakes. It's great fun to watch a maniac like Ramsey play but you have to understand that his style ensures that he is drawing dead in these games.

Brad Owen mentioned that he had the same low VPIP as Trooper in a previous streamed session but nobody gave him crap about it. I've now watched Neeme play multiple times on stream and it tends to be like watching paint dry. Yet nobody is going to give him crap about the fact that he plays a tight range of hands and rarely makes much conversation at the table.

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Originally Posted by Steve00007
I still don’t get that $300 call he made with JT on the flop.
He was just gambling, trying to get lucky, trying to hit a favorable card on the turn. I'd hope that even he would admit that was a tilt mistake.
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10-27-2017 , 06:40 PM
That J10 hand was beyond horrible and literally made no sense lol. I got a shout out from Bart Hanson after the hand for my comment in the chat box...

"That shouldn't be in anyones playbook"
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10-27-2017 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by patriots
not looking to rip him..bart hanson the announcer asked both of them why the chat is so hard on trooper{not knowing}and both of them said "i have no idea"

thats straight nonsense..what you do if you dont or cant explain troopers haters at least tell the many people watching to go to 2+2 and read this thread.figure it out for themselves
Straight nonsense ?? LMAO you are too much, why would they care to explain trooper's haters ?

They don't even post in this cesspool of a thread and i suspect that they don't even read it.

Not everybody enjoys denigrating someone as everyone in this thread do.

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10-27-2017 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wilson1560
It was essentially a 5/5/10 game which is probably the biggest game Trooper has ever played in. Very natural to nit it up in that situation. It would be dumb for him to play high variance in a game he is not rolled to play even if he sacrifices some equity doing so. I give him credit for getting himself out there, taking some risks and trying to build his brand.
You give him credit for playing in a game he isnt rolled for? How exactly is that ever a good idea? I will agree it was a good idea to be on the show for his clothing/hat brand. If I were Trooper, I'd concentrate on that as that could end up being a lucrative venture. But he'll probably screw that up as well.
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10-27-2017 , 08:01 PM
We don’t know how often Brad and Andrew even watch Trooper videos. Less than a year ago Andrew admitted he had just started watching them.

Also if one of them gives even a small criticism of Trooper, it will get repeated by others, Trooper will hear about it and the criticism will seem like it was 100 times worse than it really was.
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10-27-2017 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lvBlitzforce
That J10 hand was beyond horrible and literally made no sense lol. I got a shout out from Bart Hanson after the hand for my comment in the chat box...

"That shouldn't be in anyones playbook"
Not condoning his play long term, but fold fests kill the ratings. I think most players are aware of that and they loosen up for these events.
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10-27-2017 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the hand selection Trooper displayed was similar to that of the majority of winning live low stakes grinders.
I thought he played that way during an online live stream over a year ago that he got a lot of criticism for. He would tilt and do really dumb stuff eventually, but most of the play was better than I expected after reading comments saying how awful he was.

But I still wonder if he played better these last couple of nights because he was playing in bigger games, was playing on LATB, or both. Maybe this is why he loses in good games so often. He might loosen up in those games because he tilts more or doesn’t respect his opponents so he plays more hands.
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10-27-2017 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JoseJohnnyJimJack
Not condoning his play long term, but fold fests kill the ratings. I think most players are aware of that and they loosen up for these events.
He played tight the rest of the night though. Tighter than many people expected.
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10-27-2017 , 08:18 PM
Why would they criticize Trooper at all? It's called professional courtesy.
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10-27-2017 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pistol noon
Straight nonsense ?? LMAO you are too much, why would they care to explain trooper's haters ?

They don't even post in this cesspool of a thread and i suspect that they don't even read it.

Not everybody enjoys denigrating someone as everyone in this thread do.
They don’t even post much on 2+2. They started their own forum and respond to comments from fans in their videos. Didn’t Andrew say he also had a group of people he discussed hands with?
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