You can't be serious?Trooper explained it himself in a whole vlog about poker rooms basically are for hotel guest, and an added feature for tourist to visit when staying. You must have missed that day of class. How does having more players there to SPLIT a freeroll help the MGM grand?? Trooper made a lot of money off the MGM promotion.

Trooper could have a million followers and MGM still would turn trooper away if they saw him filming. Places like Golden Nugget keep a small poker room just because they don't make a lot off it per square foot. They would love to replace it with a slot machine. lol

PH is a shopping experiencing. Put it this way. The poker room for PH is like offering free wine to customers to make their experience more fun, while they spend money elsewhere on their properties.

Some of you folks are naive or straight delusional thinking a YouTube vlogger with 15k subs is going to effect the bottom line of a multi billion dollar/year operation. That **** is laughable.

Troop is showing some real ignorance here. He knows filming at the table "isn't the right thing to do". Why else state so many times that he does it discreetly, that it doesn't bother anybody, etc...

The fact is he finally seemed to be starting to get it, this 100 hours thing, promos, free money. And he'd rather b*&@$ and moan instead of sucking it up like a man and playing in the MGM where it's clear he's profitable.

Troop can't help but get in his own way. He'd rather be stubborn than successful. A true sign of immaturity.

If the poker room had no impact to the MGM's bottom line (either directly through profit or indirectly by attracting bodies to the casino) then it wouldn't be there. The effect is likely small relative to other gaming but it still wouldn't be there unless there was a measurable effect. And free advertising targeted to 15K likely customers is a lot cheaper and more effective than paid, untargeted advertising.

Why would the MGM have the poker room if it didn't benefit the MGM? Even if that benefit was only as you indicated ("basically are for hotel guest, added dfeature for tourist") then it's still a benefit that helps MGM's bottom line. If it didn't then it wouldn't be there.

Because having more players split a fixed/scaled freeroll pool doesn't cost MGM a single extra penny yet the more players they have in the room trying to earn the freeroll the more rake the casino earns.

They don't do it for people like you, or troopers poker followers. They simply have it there to keep the spending tourist and businessman happy while staying at their properties. If enough guest requested a tennis court they would add one of those,too. It is that simple.

Not sure you grasped what I said. Tropper's negative review will have zero effect on the MGM's poker room or its bottom line. It's laughable to think it will. It has nothing to do with keeping the room open or it's profitable viability. I'm talking apples and you're discussing oranges here.

You don't get it..... Because you're overvaluing poker players impact on the casino.

Or overvaluing the very minor subset of Trooper viewers that would not play in a room because the manager asked him not to do something he knows he shouldn't be doing.

lol true, thanks man. The people arguing need to take an eco class.

I don't see anything in what you wrote that says you were speaking to Trooper's negative review effect on MGM's room, esp when the running discussion has been about whether Trooper's mentioning of the room in prior vlogs has had a positive effect on the room. It certainly could have been what you meant but don't blame the listener for failing to properly convey your point.

If I'm overvaluing the poker players' impact on the casino then the casino is overvaluing the poker players' impact as well since they're the ones going through the trouble of running a room that isn't helping them.

You're too focused on 1 side. Yes, there is a tiny upside to having more people in the poker pit. As soon as 1 of those people sticks in 1 penny in a slot machine, there is "profit".

The problem is that there is also a downside to having people film **** in the casino. Some rich businessman with a gambling problem might go there while his wife thinks he's on an important business meeting. What if he sees that MGM allows people to videotape, you don't think he'd play it safe and stay at the bellagio instead?

It's. Not. For. The. Poker. Players.

I think its silly to say Trooper or any other poker Vloger has had no financial impact to a poker room. I'm sure whatever impact he or anyone else has had means nothing to the bigger picture of MGM or Caesars bottom line. Obv these rooms have seen some uptick in attendance because of exposure to "loose action" or good promos featured in poker vlogs.

You just defined "no financial impact".


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One of these guys will get caught filming at a CET property and be banned from the WSOP. That will put an end to it


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Regarding the value of a poker room.
There's also the factor of what the other half is doing. Every time I play in Vegas I end up playing with people whose husband/wife doesn't play poker. While their partner is playing poker, they are on the slots/blackjack/at the spa etc. If it wasn't for the poker room, they could both be somewhere else spending money.

hopefully they would warn people before getting the ban, but yeah one guy getting banned would put a quick stop to that

Interview with local artist Carmen Gray

Just a heads up, no gambling in this vlog. I thought it would be cool to share a little LV culture and for anyone moving out here that might want some spectacular art to put in their home.

That would be a little ironic considering all of the tournaments are filmed including hole cards at the feature table.

LMAO @ using a straw man argument to make your point. Nobody ITT thinks that MGM big wigs give a crap about the Trooper or his 15k followers. As an example, I'm sure a local small business owner couldn't pull enough strings to significantly impact a billion dollar national corporation like ClearChannel but that doesn't mean the small business owner couldn't have some sort of impact. My father did just that when he put the most popular radio station in my hometown out of business after they wrote my mom a **** you letter.

If I fold pocket Aces preflop tonight that's not going to affect my life one bit. It's not even going to significantly impact my overall winrate. That doesn't mean I should do it. After reading many of the responses ITT, I think I'm starting to better understand why these resort casinos have such a hard time being profitable.

Didn't the Linq close its poker room???? lol I think They replaced it with TVs and a couch for a bar. Case Closed. Trooper worked there, too.

If Vegas casinos start really cracking down on filming at the table certain vloggers will be impacted greater than others. It seems to me the person that would take the biggest hit would be Andrew Neeme. Off the top of my head, the vloggers who would likely be the least impacted would be Trooper, Pure Aggression, and VegasJaydon. Hopefully Trooper plays up the drama some whether it be Trooper vs MGM or Trooper vs anti-camera powers that be.

MGM doesn't offer any "free promotions" in the poker room. The players pay for them.

Also, there are people who watch his videos that don't even play poker, and many poker players are gamblers that play other games. I've seen many poker players that dump a ton of money in the pits, sports book or machines. Lol at acting like his vlog only bring nits into the casino. The poker room is more likely to bring more gamblers in than a few more slot machines.

The MGM poker room gets a lot more business than the room at The LINQ.