El Diesel is not captivating at all to me. What IS captivating is how so many of you knuckleheads are captivated by him..

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Okay so several times he did mention when staying at an airbnb, there were several tenants there. I guess there might been that one time when he had the whole place or floor to himself or there were other tenants.


But if he doesn't take those four daily drinks on the days he doesn't play, then he would get weekend discounted rooms right? If so, why would he take the drinks? Was confused why it was mentioned he takes his four daily drinks and leaves for the day because I recall he logged a lot of hours at the table. He does play at least 40 hours a week minimum right? I remember he had that 200 or 300 hour challenge for the month.

Well no one knows the algorithm that they use but he gets all his points through poker and he claims his 4 free drinks every single day regardless of whether he plays at Caesars properties that day or not.

It's not hard to figure out that he won't get the same room offers that a slots or pit player will get who never bothers with the 4 free drinks. They see one player as much more profitable than the other and thus offer them better deals to entice them to stay/play.

If VPN/Rice/Diesel ever came out with a merch line, it would be the greatest OMFG moment this thread will ever see.

some of us know the algorithm and i can assure you him taking the drinks from cet properties and leaving right away is affecting his offers

diamonds in a day thread talks strat about how to game this system for those who are interested

If you don't mind me asking, are you someone who knows the algorithm? If so, that is some great information I'd like to know. I'd have so many questions....

I'm confused what you mean by he takes his four daily drinks a day and then leaves everyday. He puts in so many hours so I don't understand what you mean by this. Do you mean he takes his drinks early in the day or afternoon and then doesn't play until night or something? Not sure how that would affect him as I assume he still plays 8 hours every single day/night? I guess you mean because he might only put say 5 hours that calendar day it affects him? Then again I thought a calendar day went a few hours after midnight so he certainly gets at least 6 hours of playing a day right?



Why doesn't he only takes his four free drinks only on days that he plans to play? So essentially he is playing at least 5 days a week and don't the other 2 days? But it still will affect his discounted rooms for the weekends since you mention unlike other diamond plus members who play table games and slots and don't care about the drinks, that is why those other diamond plus members get much better weekend room rates than him? But if he doesn't take his free four drinks on the days he don't play, then he will get better discounted weekend rates than he does now?

they are saying on days he decides to take off and not play, he'll still go get his free drinks


let's say that each day he plays poker, the casino values at worth $100

the casion views it by the day, not by the total - because the entire purpose of comps is to get them to play more than one day

so if he plays 5 days and gets drinks 5 days the the casino sees 5 days averaging $100 revenue for them, he's worth $100 a day

if he plays 5 days and gets drinks 7 days then the casino sees 7 days averaging $71 revenue for them, he's worth $70 a day and thus a lower priority for getting comps

likewise, he'd be better off having a big single day of $250 value to the casino that 5x$100 because then he's worth $250 to them and going to get a lot better comp offers

again, go to diamond in a day thread and everything is covered there

yes this . he will not play anything at horseshoe but will always gets his drink.

also can't really share what i know , maybe some generic questions but cant get into too detail.

He doesn't only play at Caesars properties. He also plays Bellagio, MGM, Westgate, Sahara and Mandalay Bay

Okay that makes sense then with the get drinks everyday but only play 5 days a week and lowering your daily amount worth to the casino. How did you come up with the everyday he plays a day, they value his poker play at $100 a day? Are you assuming he plays like 8 hours a day or so? Are you saying the casino values his play at 1/3nl at caesars to be worth 12.50/hr? Something like because they average $100 dollars in rake a table they collect an hour and divide it by 8 players at the table or something? How would someone like him have the casino have him worth $250 a day then since he only plays poker? He certainly can't do that at a caesars property unless he was playing 2/5nl and put in at least 10 hours a day which probably doesn't even run that much?



I guess the only way would be like 2/5nl or 5/10nl and higher at the other casinos? The issue though is at aria and bellagio, even if he put in say 40 works a week at say 1/3nl or 2/5nl, there is not going to be any room offers besides discounted room offers for him right? I recall caesars properties gave comped rooms and discounted rooms a lot but that's almost impossible for mgm properties like aria and bellagio if you only play poker though right? Like if El Diesel only played Bellagio, Aria, MGM, Westgate, Mandalay Bay and not at caesars, then isn't he going to not have any comped and discounted rooms with caesars? I guess the plan for him is play at caesars to make sure he gets at least diamond so he gets comped rooms and discounted rooms for the year? Then he goes and plays at the other casino he wants afterwards? But make sure he always has at least diamond for hotel room comps and discounts right so he has a cheap place to stay during 5 days of the week?



I got to assume it takes him less than 2 months to get diamond right since he put in so much volume? You get 17 tier credits an hour at 1/3nl so playing 40 hours a week and 160 hours a month gets you about 2700 tier credits or so 2 months he gets it. So in order to get diamond plus, he takes almost 6 months to get there? So diamond plus gets more discounted rooms and comp rooms than diamond correct? Only then, he would play those other rooms?



Yea I know he played at other rooms as well but I thought the reason it was mainly caesars was because to keep getting tier credits to keep gettin comped rooms. But after diamond plus, there isn't anything really for him to get afterwards because he won't be able to reach the next tier.



I just watched some of his recent videos. The video where he has a thanksgiving feast was interesting to say the least. He loves to cook rice in the rice cooker and put food over it when cooking it. This guy is one of the most intriguing characters ever.

There will be many days that he doesn't play at any Caesars properties but does still claim his 4 free drink vouchers. He doesn't play poker every single day, and some days he will play poker but not at any Caesars properties.

Even on days when he is driving to another state early in the AM he still makes sure to get his 4 free drinks before leaving. It would be perfect irony if it costs him more in accommodation offers that what he gains with the free drinks!

pj, those numbers i gave were made up - it was just to give an idea of how it worked


angle - 100% agree - he's killing his potential true comp value in order to get something he literally doesn't need at all

water freely available for him to drink so it's pretty astounding he prioritizes one thing he most certainly doesn't need in life over something he absolutely needs in cheaper housing

it does cost him more in room offers.


also , to the previous post

he is pretty optimal otherwise, even though the use of parking on non gaming days might also be detrimental.

the key for him is to make gold at mgm properties and diamond at cet to avoid resort fees, diamond plus is also nice and he can use multiplier days to make it much easier. i would say for him to go platinum at mgm but it seems like he can get in their lounges anyway.

Okay so he claims his four drink vouchers regardless if he will play or not or if he is traveling to another state. Is there a reason why he always gets gatorade and water and not other things? It seems each drink you get it's comped up to $20 or $25 each? Would thought he choose something higher value? But obviously he isn't going to choose a drink at the bar since he has to tip a few dollars right?


I did thought if he was staying at caesars properties like 5 days a week, getting four free drinks is pretty nice though. But since it hurts him casino worth when getting it and not playing for that day, that seems really foolish for him to do that if he risk losing the comped and discounted rooms. By the way, if he put 40 hours a week every week at the other non caesar properties like bellagio or aria or westgate and the other ones you mentioned, those aren't going to give him any weekday comped rooms correct? At best it would be discounted room rates and even then it would cost at least $50 a night minimum at Westgate and obviously at least $100 at bellagio?


Where is the water freely available to him to drink from? You mean drinking from the hotel sink faucet or you mean just going to CVS daily and buying the big a few liters of water daily? Yea the thing is a place to stay is the most important so it makes sense he has to play at caesars just for the diamond before he plays anywhere else.


Wait so if he only played at MGM properties like Bellagio and get gold, does he automatically get diamond at cet like that free match or is that gone? I heard they did that a while back. However, still no comped or not much in discounted rooms for Bellagio right? Well the discounted rate would be way more than what he wants to pay.
So if he gets platinum in MGM, you say he can get in the lounge for real and could basically eat for free daily? Or he could only go there for a short time and can't get say dinner there?


I also just watched that video of why he wouldn't play 2/5 and he says why don't other players go player higher at their current stake. Is he too proud to admit he doesn't want to handle the larger swings? He does seem to say that the games are easier at his stake and he doesn't need to play 2/5 to play bigger size pots where you might have some similar at soft 1/2 or 1/3 which definitely is true right?

Please go easy on the essays. Think about what your main point is and make it succinctly!

Pretty sure Rice is Diamond plus for 2024.

“I end up losing to these numbskulls.”

-Trooper


Why did he call them numbskulls? It’s so ironic he would say that.

omg it's becoming real, genuinely considering calling it a day and finding a dark corner and drinking some bleach

dude eats out of a rice cooker but thinks he's too good to fill up a water bottle from a faucet or drinking fountain

Checkout was pretty standard at pre mgm borgata with a black card at borga

I remember waking up at 9 am ish half drunk shocked to see a text that my room was ready


I mean honestly I grew up poor and im pretty cheap but the lengths and coping mechanisms El Diesel goes through are pretty mild boggling.

Well most people aren't going to drink water out of the hotel sink faucet so when you said he has access to free water, I was confused what you meant by that. Yea obviously if he eats the way he does, no problem of drinking water from the hotel sink tap.


Most people just buy bottled water it seems. You are right people fill up tap water from a faucet or drinking fountain but because I haven't done that for so long and that reminds me of a long time ago, I was confused but of course you are right this would be nothing for El Diesel.

If he's I already playing or staying at a Caesars property then taking the drinks doesn't hurt his ADT.