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03-05-2021 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
Not according to this I can't. It is now considered "healthy" in today's woke culture.

What is possibly more interesting is you referring to magazine covers to confirm what you can or cannot say.
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03-05-2021 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997

If it isn't... American society is in much worse shape than I thought.
FYP
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03-05-2021 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by thedude404
What is possibly more interesting is you referring to magazine covers to confirm what you can or cannot say.
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03-05-2021 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by thedude404
What is possibly more interesting is you referring to magazine covers to confirm what you can or cannot say.
Lmao
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03-05-2021 , 03:08 PM
BK hockey bets update?
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03-05-2021 , 03:13 PM
He was 8-1 for 2 days and I believe yesterday he went 2-2 losing juice.
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03-05-2021 , 03:21 PM
Not bad BK.

BK, are you sticking to only betting the picks that you've paid for or do you go your own way never/sometimes/a lot?
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03-05-2021 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by thedude404
What is possibly more interesting is you referring to magazine covers to confirm what you can or cannot say.

haha yea. random magazine cover of magazine he doesnt read is attack on him! Poor guy!
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03-05-2021 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by marknfw
Not bad BK.

BK, are you sticking to only betting the picks that you've paid for or do you go your own way never/sometimes/a lot?
I'm curious about this too. Since he has picks given to him that he paid for, does he take those and filter out the ones that he also agrees with? Does he do it blind by making his own picks before checking the bought picks and then cross referencing?

I'm curious about this. If someone buys picks, do they just blindly bet it or do they use it in addition to their own research and bet the stuff that overlaps?

If you paid $1K for a bunch of picks, would you value them higher than your own casual fan picks?
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03-05-2021 , 07:24 PM
What a surprise, Trooper running late even to his own game. Wow 3 handed Trooper Thursday, sounds like fun.

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03-05-2021 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Outoftime44444
Why is guy raking in 5000% income in 3 weeks crying about strangers discussing a $1/$3 "grinder's" low limit hockey picks?
He clearly just wants us all to make millions from a starting bankroll of $1000. I mean, when someone with enough mental problems to make dozens of fake accounts offers us their penny stock advice, we should go all in.


Wrt someone asking about bikeking betting on his own, I’d say likely not. As someone who played high-level hockey here in Canada, it’s clear his hockey knowledge is about a 2/10.
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03-05-2021 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
What a surprise, Trooper running late even to his own game. Wow 3 handed Trooper Thursday, sounds like fun.
I wonder if they will still deny you a seat if you're not a reg.
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03-05-2021 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by VeniceMerchant
Wrt someone asking about bikeking betting on his own, I’d say likely not. As someone who played high-level hockey here in Canada, it’s clear his hockey knowledge is about a 2/10.
This is cool. I know approx zero about hockey. As some one who has played high level hockey what are a couple of things that stand out to you?

thanks
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03-05-2021 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by squid face
This is cool. I know approx zero about hockey. As some one who has played high level hockey what are a couple of things that stand out to you?

thanks
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Originally Posted by Bikeking19
the advanced metrics supported my pick.
his touts metrics and his touts pick, not his.

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Originally Posted by Bikeking19
both teams have been playing to the under, especially when they play each other
this is the kind of silly historical data that punters love to use. Pinnacle's podcast even uses it.. now why would they do that if it was -EV for the books?

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Canadians are top 5
might be the most absurd one

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Originally Posted by Bikeking19
lost to them last game, pretty good revenge spot
Are NHL players really going to try super duper hard because they lost last time? Does the winning team simply not try after they go 1-0 in a 1 game sample?

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Originally Posted by Bikeking19
losing multiple games in a row in this condensed season is even tougher to withstand in the standings.
Based on this logic, every team should be trying their best every game. If that's the case, it should never be a bonafide reason to bet one team vs another.
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Originally Posted by Da_Nit
-people in here have mentioned already that he doesn't even shop lines, while also talking about how small edges are in sports betting. 101 stuff.

-believing that the "sharp money" is moving the lines but having 0 proof to confirm that it's true. I honestly don't even know how someone besides higher-ups at a large sportsbook would be able to assess this.
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03-05-2021 , 09:42 PM
Thank you for your insight Venice it is much appreciated
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03-05-2021 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by VeniceMerchant

-believing that the "sharp money" is moving the lines but having 0 proof to confirm that it's true. I honestly don't even know how someone besides higher-ups at a large sportsbook would be able to assess this.

His 3rd party tout website purports which way money is coming in.
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03-05-2021 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Outoftime44444
His 3rd party tout website purports which way money is coming in.
Based on what evidence though?
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03-05-2021 , 10:53 PM
Latest Trooper Results:

Spoiler:


-500

2021: +1,769




I forgot until i was telling my friend about bikeking, and that said friend worked for one of these places in reno that give out fake picks for money for a time.

Anytime the line moves its based on sharp money or almost always, most books will gamble a little bit and wont move the line to even out bets if its not sharp money coming on too heavy on one side or another. Fairly easy to figure out if its sharp money or not. I dont know everything about it, im just a poker player who knows a bettor like ive said, but im basically regurgitating what ive heard from haralabos with this one
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03-05-2021 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by VeniceMerchant
Based on what evidence though?
If he is just looking at the action app numbers, if there is 70% tickets on one side and only 40% of the actual cash on that side then the sharp money is on the opposite side.

That is just how action app decides which side sharp money is on. But they are only getting data from a few books and they won't say which ones. But its usually enough data to get a feel.

You can also use this:
https://www.wagertalk.com/freeOddsPa...ort=S2&v=2.1.1

But they likely use only 1 or 2 books.
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03-05-2021 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by VeniceMerchant
his touts metrics and his touts pick, not his.







this is the kind of silly historical data that punters love to use. Pinnacle's podcast even uses it.. now why would they do that if it was -EV for the books?





might be the most absurd one







Are NHL players really going to try super duper hard because they lost last time? Does the winning team simply not try after they go 1-0 in a 1 game sample?







Based on this logic, every team should be trying their best every game. If that's the case, it should never be a bonafide reason to bet one team vs another.





-people in here have mentioned already that he doesn't even shop lines, while also talking about how small edges are in sports betting. 101 stuff.



-believing that the "sharp money" is moving the lines but having 0 proof to confirm that it's true. I honestly don't even know how someone besides higher-ups at a large sportsbook would be able to assess this.
Wow idk what fallacy to start with. The amount of information you inject as facts is astounding. Do you not know what metrics are in hockey? Corsi, Fenwick, High danger chances, any of that ring a bell? The numbers are what the numbers are, that's like saying "he uses his touts qbr not his." You have zero information on the number of books I bet at or where I place my money, you also have zero information on how closely I follow the service that I bought and the amount of research I do on my own. I like how you quoted my Canadiens quote but not the one where I stated that was actually wrong, but they have been playing much better than their results are, which is accurate. The number of people who took me up on a side bet for hockey picks is zero fwiw. Apparently I only bet on huge favorites, radio silence when my biggest bet yesterday was on an underdog that cashed. You say I can have no knowledge of where sharp money is coming from, and yet the information I get that from you also have no idea where thats coming from, I'll include a link for you to learn more about rather than dismissing as false. https://www.actionnetwork.com/educat...essional-picks 21-9 last 7 days, only a matter of time before I lose everything.
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03-06-2021 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bikeking19
Wow idk what fallacy to start with. The amount of information you inject as facts is astounding. Do you not know what metrics are in hockey? Corsi, Fenwick, High danger chances, any of that ring a bell? The numbers are what the numbers are, that's like saying "he uses his touts qbr not his." You have zero information on the number of books I bet at or where I place my money, you also have zero information on how closely I follow the service that I bought and the amount of research I do on my own. I like how you quoted my Canadiens quote but not the one where I stated that was actually wrong, but they have been playing much better than their results are, which is accurate. The number of people who took me up on a side bet for hockey picks is zero fwiw. Apparently I only bet on huge favorites, radio silence when my biggest bet yesterday was on an underdog that cashed. You say I can have no knowledge of where sharp money is coming from, and yet the information I get that from you also have no idea where thats coming from, I'll include a link for you to learn more about rather than dismissing as false. https://www.actionnetwork.com/educat...essional-picks 21-9 last 7 days, only a matter of time before I lose everything.
Don't you think the overseas books have access to the same info and stats you do and more? Do you think they just wing it when they put up lines and have all these soft lines up for multiple games for the whole world to pick them off?
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03-06-2021 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bikeking19
Do you not know what metrics are in hockey? Corsi, Fenwick, High danger chances, any of that ring a bell?
I played 2 years in the WHL, and 4 years of college hockey. I'll put my hockey knowledge up against yours anytime.

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21-9 last 7 days, only a matter of time before I lose everything.
Such a gigantic sample. If you still have money in 500 bets, I'd be impressed. But you won't.

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radio silence when my biggest bet yesterday was on an underdog that cashed
Wasn't the "underdog" you cashed like a +140? Congrats on hitting that super rare pick. The breakeven point of that bet is close to 42%.
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03-06-2021 , 01:53 AM
BK19... can you please post your hockey picks in this thread... or somewhere in this forum.

I still use pen and paper, not IG.

What was the underdog that cashed?
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03-06-2021 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvDaVlogs
I forgot until i was telling my friend about bikeking, and that said friend worked for one of these places in reno that give out fake picks for money for a time.
What exactly is the difference between a “fake” pick and a “real” pick?

Are there tout services deliberately giving out picks they think are losers (maybe to balance against sharp money)?
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03-06-2021 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MR1986
Def seems like something you would do. You poor thing, so sad. We’re here for you though. Don’t you worry.


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goodbye troll. exiled. and you are lol still having a signature.

and people actually bet hockey> whoa! tough gig with zero information.
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