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02-25-2021 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
I don't know, call me crazy but I think I actually believe Trooper's version of events. At least it is close enough to the truth.
Trooper didn't show up at the agreed upon time for the weigh in. So technically, he lost the weight challenge. He never paid Pokerkraut. If my recollection of event's is correct.
Of course, because Trooper is Trooper, he's the one that's somehow angry at pokerkraut after all these years.
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02-25-2021 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
Trooper didn't show up at the agreed upon time for the weigh in. So technically, he lost the weight challenge. He never paid Pokerkraut. If my recollection of event's is correct.
Of course, because Trooper is Trooper, he's the one that's somehow angry at pokerkraut after all these years.
Yep, he admitted he was late in the rant. But also explained that specifically wasn't the reason the rift started. It was PK saying one thing to his face (or text) and doing something totally different in his videos. I could see PK doing that.
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02-25-2021 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
I don't know, call me crazy but I think I actually believe Trooper's version of events. At least it is close enough to the truth.

Has he ever really explained his version? Maybe I’m just not up to speed.
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02-25-2021 , 02:52 PM
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Has he ever really explained his version? Maybe I’m just not up to speed.
Yes, in the live stream posted here a couple days ago.
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02-25-2021 , 02:53 PM
In the rant video a few days ago, he told a long story about what happened on the weight bet.



5:41:18 starts the story.
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02-25-2021 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
I don't know, call me crazy but I think I actually believe Trooper's version of events. At least it is close enough to the truth.
I believe him not caring about the bet too. Why he showed up late without handling things with PK personally, then going right into THISMEANSWAR mode tells another story. Why not just do the "viral video" if it had so much potential, then amicably cut ties?

But then again, Trooper never really liked PK from the jump. I remember when PK just started dealing at the Linq and Trooper was calling PK an a-hole for starting his own vlog, "stepping on his toes" as he called it as many of the players were there to splash around with thetrooper.

PK made a vlog or two about the weight loss challenge with his explanation of events and Trooper has been in "f that guy" mode ever since. Still seems really weird and ultimately juvenile, but that's how Trooper handles situations. One slight scratch at his ego and you've made an enemy for life with him.

He does this at the tables, going into revenge/war mode on players who say something that he doesn't like, looks a certain way, stacks their chips a certain way, talks a certain way. He makes it his job to try and crack them. As many of the past vlogs have taught us... the lines that he takes with players that tilt him end up with him being unable to fold marginal holdings and tilting off stacks because he has a revenge narrative in his head against the world.

I can't be the only one who sees this?
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02-25-2021 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by VeniceMerchant
1) The Canadiens are not a top 5 team in the NHL. Even a few of my friends who are diehard Canadiens fans wouldn't delude themselves by pretending they are. In fact, I'd be hard pressed to believe that the Canadiens will finish inside the top 10. Losing to the Sens (The worst team in the league) in back-to-back games doesn't really make a strong top 5 argument for Montreal.

Just saying that shows how little you know about hockey.

2) Using terms like "revenge spot" as if NHL players are a bunch of emotional teenage girls again shows that you aren't thinking about this logically.

3) Not a single person here believes that you're up 14.5 units, let alone 30. And lol at not even tracking your results until recently (and why would you, since you lose longterm?)

4) No thanks on the $100 bet. That's probably 25% of your bankroll, and it'll be long gone far before the NHL season ends.

5) look up the Dunning-Kruger effect. The less you know about a subject, the less you think there is to know. The edges in sports betting are small, and you've placed way too much confidence in some outsider to give you these amazing picks.


Answer me this BK:
-If your tout gives you such great picks that you triple your bankroll this year (and thus all of the 100s of other punters who purchased the package), do all of you then bet 3x the amount next year?
-if so, shouldn't it move the line when 100s of guys are each betting as much as they can on the same side since they know it's +EV?
-if the tout has been around for say, 10 years, shouldn't there already be 100s of guys posting max bets? shouldn't word of mouth make that number increase exponentially by now? If my buddy is paying $1000 for sports bets for 5 years and hasn't worked in 3, I'd be crazy to miss out, and so would everyone else.

tl:dr if touts were legit, eventually they'd have 100s or 1000s of guys all making max bets on +EV lines, and would crumble the sportsbooks. since that hasn't happened, it's pretty clear that touts aren't legit.
Yea agree. The way Bikeking talks about games, here and IG shows he is not a sharp sports bettor. "Printing money" betting on heavy favorites?

Maybe can get Alabama or Patriots 5 games in a row or something sometime, but its not that easy.

Also he has to overcome Approximately 10 units spent on just buying the picks, plus his own time.

How shocked he often is when a 70% win probability doesnt come in is surprising.
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02-25-2021 , 03:26 PM
Never associated pokerkraut with one of the first vloggers, but yeah, he goes way back.
Trooper must be upset with a whole lot of people, since there's so many poker vloggers now.

I first heard of Trooper through Andrew Neeme's vlog. When Neeme happened to see him at one of the New York airports and was classy enough to introduce him. Trooper might have been the first vlogger, but Neeme is the one who made poker vlogs popular in my opinion. Neeme's stuff was first class.

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02-25-2021 , 03:40 PM
"Nothing stops the gamble."

Someone in chat proceeds to trigger him, set him off on an angry 30 minute rant and stops the gamble.
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02-25-2021 , 03:42 PM
Maybe I'll bother to take the time to see what Trooper has to say about the whole thing.
And not that it's important to.me, but here's how I see things.
Trooper makes bet. He loses bet. He doesn't pay. And then he's upset about what pokerkraut has to say about it.
What happened to a gamblers word was his honor and all that?
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02-25-2021 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VeniceMerchant
1) The Canadiens are not a top 5 team in the NHL. Even a few of my friends who are diehard Canadiens fans wouldn't delude themselves by pretending they are. In fact, I'd be hard pressed to believe that the Canadiens will finish inside the top 10. Losing to the Sens (The worst team in the league) in back-to-back games doesn't really make a strong top 5 argument for Montreal.



Just saying that shows how little you know about hockey.



2) Using terms like "revenge spot" as if NHL players are a bunch of emotional teenage girls again shows that you aren't thinking about this logically.



3) Not a single person here believes that you're up 14.5 units, let alone 30. And lol at not even tracking your results until recently (and why would you, since you lose longterm?)



4) No thanks on the $100 bet. That's probably 25% of your bankroll, and it'll be long gone far before the NHL season ends.



5) look up the Dunning-Kruger effect. The less you know about a subject, the less you think there is to know. The edges in sports betting are small, and you've placed way too much confidence in some outsider to give you these amazing picks.





Answer me this BK:

-If your tout gives you such great picks that you triple your bankroll this year (and thus all of the 100s of other punters who purchased the package), do all of you then bet 3x the amount next year?

-if so, shouldn't it move the line when 100s of guys are each betting as much as they can on the same side since they know it's +EV?

-if the tout has been around for say, 10 years, shouldn't there already be 100s of guys posting max bets? shouldn't word of mouth make that number increase exponentially by now? If my buddy is paying $1000 for sports bets for 5 years and hasn't worked in 3, I'd be crazy to miss out, and so would everyone else.



tl:dr if touts were legit, eventually they'd have 100s or 1000s of guys all making max bets on +EV lines, and would crumble the sportsbooks. since that hasn't happened, it's pretty clear that touts aren't legit.
You're assuming a ton of inaccurate information buddy, other than the fact that the Canadians probably aren't top 5, but their talent certainly is much better than they've been playing as of late.
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02-25-2021 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
In the rant video a few days ago, he told a long story about what happened on the weight bet.



5:41:18 starts the story.


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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
Yes, in the live stream posted here a couple days ago.


Thanks and wow.
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02-25-2021 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bikeking19
You're assuming a ton of inaccurate information buddy, other than the fact that the Canadians probably aren't top 5, but their talent certainly is much better than they've been playing as of late.
Glossed over 90% of my comments/questions I see. But ok.

-Jake Allen overachieving so far this year with a career high save % while being rated 59th for goalies on dailyfaceoff.com
-Josh Anderson with 9G in 18 games which is way oveachieving for him
-Carey Price with a 5-3 record and a horrible .893 save % (He's rated as the 28th best NHL goalie on dailyfaceoff
-Phillip Danault is rated the 29th best center, while being Montreal's #1 option. their 2nd line and 3rd line centers are unrated
-Shea Weber is rated as the #15 RD in the NHL. He's their best defenseman
-Corey Perry is on their first line powerplay and has 2 goals in 11 games while being rated as 101st LW


Hockey is a sport that I follow closely and enjoy. You're making claims about things that you have absolutely no clue about. Again I'll say, it's abundantly clear that you know nothing about hockey.
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02-25-2021 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
Maybe I'll bother to take the time to see what Trooper has to say about the whole thing.
And not that it's important to.me, but here's how I see things.
Trooper makes bet. He loses bet. He doesn't pay. And then he's upset about what pokerkraut has to say about it.
What happened to a gamblers word was his honor and all that?

Damn Neeme’s first video was great, one of the best vlogs ever. It was like the first that dunked in basketball or did a forward pass in football, ground breaking.
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02-25-2021 , 04:21 PM
Trooper and Poker Kraut, acting as poker dealers do when they play poker, each got into an emotional frizzy when things didn't go their way perfectly. PK could have waited 30 minutes for Trooper if it was so important to him but instead he became emotionally unhinged and ignored Trooper's texts/calls.

I do wonder what Trooper was up to that was worth him missing the weigh in. I bet he was banging one of his Trooper groupies.
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02-25-2021 , 04:22 PM
Is this an accurate summary of their feud?

PokerKraut ghosted Trooper after he was late to the weigh in for a bet that Trooper didn't really want to do and even though they made up, PokerKraut attacked him about it in a subsequent video. Then PokerKraut said that Trooper wasn't invited to a vlogger game that he didn't really want to go to but Trooper was invited and then PokerKraut made a video that made fun of him for it.

What is PokerKraut's version?
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02-25-2021 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Stormtrooper97
Everybody get out of the way for a real poker pro who has a real Viking babe



You punk vloggers need to go home to mamma’s basement like Trooper97fan
Something really unlikable about Vibes. Somewhere between him being absolutely in love with himself and his fake persona. I dont know, maybe its just me
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02-25-2021 , 04:24 PM
It's not just you.
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02-25-2021 , 04:47 PM
Maybe a lot was done about nothing to do. But if Trooper was so upset about all the misinformed comments, he should have made this video three years ago!
I don't regret any comments I made about Trooper not keeping his end of the bargain, because he should have made this video three year's ago !
Anyways, yeah sure, with the bet, he's the one that wanted to help pokerkraut grow his channel, the bet that pokerkruat was insisting on. I can understand someone getting on your nerves when you tell them no multiple times and they still persist, but that's sort of what gamblers do. And what's wrong with the pokerkraut having friends there? It was supposed to be a fun silly bet, right? Weird outlook on so many things with this guy.
When I saw Trooper for the first time on Neeme's vlog, Trooper just stood there like a deer in headlights. I thought to myself, ' this guy has no personality '. Didn't like Trooper from the first impression. Still don't like him after watching this rant.

Oh, and I just learned that touching yourself makes you a rapist, lol!
Perverted, when it's done in public yrs, but a rapist?
Trooper, just another angry white dude.

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02-25-2021 , 04:56 PM
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Something really unlikable about Vibes. Somewhere between him being absolutely in love with himself and his fake persona. I dont know, maybe its just me
The sportsbetting aspect got me to tune in. Is it just me or do those 2 brothers have hair that seems to be the total opposite of what you'd expect from them?

Especially the dude with the long hair and shaved sides. Reminds me of the equivalent of a girl who gets broken up with and gets a total makeover haha.
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02-25-2021 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
Never associated pokerkraut with one of the first vloggers, but yeah, he goes way back.
Trooper must be upset with a whole lot of people, since there's so many poker vloggers now.

I first heard of Trooper through Andrew Neeme's vlog. When Neeme happened to see him at one of the New York airports and was classy enough to introduce him. Trooper might have been the first vlogger, but Neeme is the one who made poker vlogs popular in my opinion. Neeme's stuff was first class.
The smart move for Trooper would have been to talk to him about collabing. At the time NEeme was up and coming, on about 15k subs, trooper 40k. Obviously trooper cant see the wood through the trees though so probably missed that opportunity due to his short sightedness
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02-25-2021 , 05:34 PM
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Oh, and I just learned that touching yourself makes you a rapist, lol!
Perverted, when it's done in public yrs, but a rapist?
Trooper, just another angry white dude.
Two different charges apparently. The exposing himself at CP in Vegas and the rape allegation he mentions is from Rhode Island or someplace he’s not sure.
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02-25-2021 , 05:43 PM
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Two different charges apparently. The exposing himself at CP in Vegas and the rape allegation he mentions is from Rhode Island or someplace he’s not sure.

Connecticut.
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02-25-2021 , 05:44 PM
Maybe he asked a woman to play strip poker with him like Gov Cuomo did.
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02-25-2021 , 05:47 PM
Gov Cuomo does not give off as many rape vibes.
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