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02-07-2017 , 08:26 PM
Ok help me wrap my head around this,,it started with baggage fees, so you would think the masses would only book airlines that didnt charge it, FAIL, they all charge it except one (FOR NOW), then came resort fees, so you would think the masses would only book hotels that dont charge it, FAIL, they all charge it on the strip and hotels are busier than ever, finally parking charges, why was there no massive boycot at MGM? I've asked a few people that work there and they all say business as usual, why are people such sheep and pay these BS fees? Myself
Baggage Fee- I will almost always book Southwest first, with only 2 exceptions, they dont fly there or the price difference is $100 less (including fees) I applaude Southwest for not charging BS fee so they get my business
Resort Fee- I refuse to book any hotel that charges it, I will stay at off strip (Hampton Inn, Holiday Inn, Arizona Charlies etc) based on principal and still save money.
Parking Fees- I will not gamble or eat to any casino that makes me pay to take my money anyways, it may mean parking somewhere else and WALKING there but at least they wont get my parking revenue.
So here is the question, am I alone in my thinking, because sometimes I think I am, my solutions seem quite simple and if everyone followed it, these BS fees would not get collected, but Vegas is busy than every so obviously people are paying these fees without much resistance
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02-07-2017 , 08:40 PM
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... why are people such sheep and pay these BS fees ? ...
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02-07-2017 , 08:42 PM
anyone who would even consider staying at arizona charlies is persona non grata on the strip. they don't want you, man.
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02-07-2017 , 10:33 PM
And the tips, don't forget all the tips too.
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02-07-2017 , 10:46 PM
Yeah! Down with capitalism! Power to the proletariat!
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02-07-2017 , 10:47 PM
Simple truth: strip resorts stopped to care about people like you years ago.
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02-07-2017 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by zdaddy
Ok help me wrap my head around this,,it started with baggage fees, so you would think the masses would only book airlines that didnt charge it, FAIL, they all charge it except one (FOR NOW), then came resort fees, so you would think the masses would only book hotels that dont charge it, FAIL, they all charge it on the strip and hotels are busier than ever, finally parking charges, why was there no massive boycot at MGM? I've asked a few people that work there and they all say business as usual, why are people such sheep and pay these BS fees? Myself
Baggage Fee- I will almost always book Southwest first, with only 2 exceptions, they dont fly there or the price difference is $100 less (including fees) I applaude Southwest for not charging BS fee so they get my business
Resort Fee- I refuse to book any hotel that charges it, I will stay at off strip (Hampton Inn, Holiday Inn, Arizona Charlies etc) based on principal and still save money.
Parking Fees- I will not gamble or eat to any casino that makes me pay to take my money anyways, it may mean parking somewhere else and WALKING there but at least they wont get my parking revenue.
So here is the question, am I alone in my thinking, because sometimes I think I am, my solutions seem quite simple and if everyone followed it, these BS fees would not get collected, but Vegas is busy than every so obviously people are paying these fees without much resistance
You are not alone.
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02-07-2017 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by zdaddy
Baggage Fee- I will almost always book Southwest first, with only 2 exceptions, they dont fly there or the price difference is $100 less (including fees) I applaude Southwest for not charging BS fee so they get my business

Resort Fee- I refuse to book any hotel that charges it, I will stay at off strip (Hampton Inn, Holiday Inn, Arizona Charlies etc) based on principal and still save money.
Aren't these two fees really the opposite of each other?

A baggage fee on an airplane is an a la carte fee only charged to the people who make use of the service.

A resort fee is one that everyone is required to pay (except high status cardholder), but gives you open access to a bundle of services that used to be charged a la carte.

I don't understand the logic of complaining about both. One only charges the people who use the service, while the other charges everyone equally, thus subsidizing the people who make use of the service.

Southwest is basically charging you a resort fee. By not charging for luggage a la carte, they make everyone bear the burden of the cost of this service even if they don't check luggage. You just don't see it because it is rolled into the overall price.
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02-07-2017 , 11:42 PM
It's all smoke and mirrors anyway. They can call it whatever they want. Baggage fees, resort fees, sales tax, room tax, parking fees, tips. To me it is just "the price." Whatever. In the end we're all dead so who cares.
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02-08-2017 , 12:14 AM
I don't think anyone particularly cares for any of these fees, but really, what are you gonna do? Go to Laughlin?
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02-08-2017 , 07:31 AM
a baggage free isn't even close to the same thing as a resort fee.
neither is a parking fee (although i just think that's bad business)

i've never used any of the garbage that comes with the resort fee but still usually had to pay it anyway (sometimes i'd get out of it by lying and saying the wifi doesn't work)

i've never paid a baggage fee when i didn't check a bag.

vegas is a lot more expensive than it used to be with a lot of nickel and diming.

flying is a lot cheaper than it used to be.look at what flights cost 25-30 years ago. they're way cheaper now when adjusted for inflation and we don't have commercial plane crashes anymore.
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02-08-2017 , 07:46 AM
Business ethics in 2017 LUL
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02-08-2017 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
i've never used any of the garbage that comes with the resort fee
You've never used wifi or the gym at a strip hotel?
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02-08-2017 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
You've never used wifi or the gym at a strip hotel?
never used the gym- i tried the wifi once or twice and tethering with my phone was always a lot faster.and i never would have even bothered with the wifi at all if i wasn't already paying the resort fee.

ten years ago i would have paid for wifi (not 35 dollars a day though)
in 2017 i wouldn't even pay a dollar for it.it's that useless.

if i wanted to use the gym or wifi i would have no problem with them charging for it.

never took their "free" newspaper or used the hotel phone either.

i have paid to print things a few times and a fee to mail a package and i have zero problem with them charging me for those services (when i actually use them.)

the resort fee is a total scam plain and simple.i've often stayed at non resort fee hotels even if the total price was a little more that way unless my room was comped at the place was charging a resort fee. i also got diamond this year so now that will be a lot easier.

baggage fees and parking fees are a much better comparison.

the resort fees have gone from around 10 dollars to 35. at ten bucks it's easy for people to not notice or care. at some point if they keep going up the **** is going to hit the fan and the gov't will probably get involved.
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02-08-2017 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
Aren't these two fees really the opposite of each other?

A baggage fee on an airplane is an a la carte fee only charged to the people who make use of the service.

A resort fee is one that everyone is required to pay (except high status cardholder), but gives you open access to a bundle of services that used to be charged a la carte.

I don't understand the logic of complaining about both. One only charges the people who use the service, while the other charges everyone equally, thus subsidizing the people who make use of the service.

Southwest is basically charging you a resort fee. By not charging for luggage a la carte, they make everyone bear the burden of the cost of this service even if they don't check luggage. You just don't see it because it is rolled into the overall price.
Right, both the baggage fee and parking fees for that matter are the opposite of resort fees. They are charging a la carte for services that used to be charged as part of a bundle, while the resort fee is bundling services that used to be charged a la carte.
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02-08-2017 , 11:49 AM
I hate being nickeled and dimed more than most anything, but businesses will charge as much as possible until it has a negative affect on the bottom line. Vegas has gotten more expensive on all fronts, including gambling, but they are staying busy. Personally, I think the parking fees are sickening, but in the end it will only deter a non-noticeable percentage of people, especially since everyone is starting to do it.

Bottom line, fees will continue to increase over time. If people continue to pay them then why would they stop?
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02-08-2017 , 04:00 PM
I'll have to make that decision when my Diamond runs out. Truthfully, there's not much in Vegas for me any more. The strip clubs have gone into the dumper. I don't gamble other than poker, and I can always play at (ugh) Casino Arizona if I feel an overwhelming urge. Even the WSOP is no great thrill any more after playing in it for 8 or 9 years.
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02-08-2017 , 04:11 PM
The resort fee is a stealth price increase, nothing more or less. From a consumer fairness standpoint, they really should force them to quote the fees in the base price if they are mandatory.

The Strip is becoming less and less interesting if you are a moderate gambler. They'd rather nickel and dime a 28 year old to death in the bars, clubs, hotels, and restaurants
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02-08-2017 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rumor
From a consumer fairness standpoint, they really should force them to quote the fees in the base price if they are mandatory.
I'm sure they'd ease up or even stop the fight for keeping resort fees if the search engines took less of a cut on sales. Resort fees are nothing more than an accounting gimmick to give search engines a smaller cut.
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02-08-2017 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rumor
The Strip is becoming less and less interesting if you are a moderate gambler. They'd rather nickel and dime a 28 year old to death in the bars, clubs, hotels, and restaurants
+1
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02-08-2017 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
I'm sure they'd ease up or even stop the fight for keeping resort fees if the search engines took less of a cut on sales. Resort fees are nothing more than an accounting gimmick to give search engines a smaller cut.
It's still the same old 10% that travel agents have charged for decades, last I heard. They could easily just say they will only pay 5% from now on. With teh intarweb, who needs a travel agent anyway, unless you're going to weird third world countries and need visa help. I don't think the town I live in even has a travel agent any more.

Look at Southwest. They pay bupkus, and I don't see them going out of business any time soon.
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02-08-2017 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
I'm sure they'd ease up or even stop the fight for keeping resort fees if the search engines took less of a cut on sales. Resort fees are nothing more than an accounting gimmick to give search engines a smaller cut.
Good point.

It's also a gimmick to make their rates seem cheaper by comparison in those tools since they generally show the rack rate and not the rack rate + resort fees. They'd rather show the room at $80/night than at $115/night
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02-08-2017 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
It's still the same old 10% that travel agents have charged for decades, last I heard. They could easily just say they will only pay 5% from now on. With teh intarweb, who needs a travel agent anyway, unless you're going to weird third world countries and need visa help. I don't think the town I live in even has a travel agent any more.

Look at Southwest. They pay bupkus, and I don't see them going out of business any time soon.
Priceline and Expedia have so much scale that this is tough. Tough to cut off a provider that brings in 20% (or whatever) of your reservations
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02-08-2017 , 08:53 PM
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I'm sure they'd ease up or even stop the fight for keeping resort fees if the search engines took less of a cut on sales. Resort fees are nothing more than an accounting gimmick to give search engines a smaller cut.
that's part of it. the other part is being intentionally deceitful to customers they figure won't bitch when they come to vegas 3 days a year and find out at the last minute.

you can book rooms even compd rooms directly on these casinos websites and still get bent over with resort fees.
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02-08-2017 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
that's part of it. the other part is being intentionally deceitful to customers they figure won't bitch when they come to vegas 3 days a year and find out at the last minute.

you can book rooms even compd rooms directly on these casinos websites and still get bent over with resort fees.
I'm more than happy to pay the inevitable resort fee if I'm getting a comped room.
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