No. But when the equipment gets older it starts getting flaky. The dealer is pushing the button, but is that signal getting to the brush's station? Even if it does, maybe the brush is missing or ignoring it.

As a system, where electronic notifications are supposed to ensure seats get quickly filled, it didn't work very well during the Collosal fallout. Human or electronically caused, the system broke down.

For one thing, I think we're just discussing Collosal-mania, which is very rare. But when an empty seat goes unfilled for 20 minutes, and then another one opens up, people start wandering off because of the lack of action. Then someone walks up and asks if this seat is open. Dealer and all the players at the table are happy for the guy to sit, even though they all know he jumped the list.

When WSOP just used a white board that was continuously 1 hour out of date, this was standard practice there.

You mean you've actually seen people announce when they sit down that they didn't bother with having anyone put them on a long list? I've never seen anyone do that. I have seen people show up at the table, get asked if they were on the list, and then get told that they needed to get on the list first. So my experiences have told me that in Vegas, people do care.

Usually when nobody makes a big deal about it, it's because the dealers didn't let the floor know that a seat was open, and the person comes in, takes the seat, and keeps quiet about it hoping that nobody will notice. Nobody cares because nobody else knows that the new player did something wrong. But if they did know, I'd expect at least the dealer to say something.

Also, if I was first on the list and saw someone jump in there and take my seat, forcing me to wait longer for a seat I've waited a while for, I'd make some noise over that.

It's similar to waiting in a long line for something, and watching someone else go straight to the front of the line in front of everyone, forcing them to wait longer and then assuming nobody cares if nobody said anything.

They're happy to see the guy sit if there is no list or if the list only has call-ins who haven't showed up yet. I find it harder to buy the idea that they are happy to see him sit if there is a very long list with people who are waiting for that seat.

I haven't been playing in the busy rooms this week, but if dealers are leaving seats empty when the lists are constantly so long, that makes them sound incompetent.

Off the top of my head, ok I can't remember anyone actually bragging out loud/announcing they skipped the list. But it is pretty obvious to those paying attention that's what they did, were allowed to sit, and no one at the table gave a **** including the dealer (and me I guess...so if that makes me an ahole, well, so be it). By obvious, I mean they ask the dealer for chips when you get them elsewhere in a particular room prior to being seated, or someone just walks in from off the floor right to an open seat without any open seat announcement or a seating card like in the Rio Pavilion Room... stuff like that.

With a long list. Multiple attempts to get the floor to fill the seats fail, and yeah the people would rather see a list jumper, who most likely is somewhere on the list anyway, than see the seat be wasted.

This happened to me a couple years ago at the WSOP: I got signed up, about a dozen on the list. I went to scout the tables while I waited. There was an empty seat, I asked if they had told the floor, they (players and dealer) said they had told floor multiple times in the last 20 minutes. I said I would go tell the brush again, they said no, just sit down. So I did.

Dealers don't fill seats. They tell the floor/brush, who are supposed to fill them. Sounds incompetent? No kidding.

what have been biggest plo games running lately? and big mix?