I was pleasantly surprised to find an additional 5K tier credits in my Caesars Rewards account this morning. I figured when you signed up for the credit card and got the additional 5K bonus for a minor spend shortly after opening it that you could not also get the 5K bonus for spending $5,000 in a calendar year on the card. Surprisingly, they stacked, so along with the 2.5K I got to opening the account, I'm now up to 12.5K without gambling a cent. So, now it just takes 2.5K TC while in Vegas for the WSOP to earn Diamond.

Just a heads-up for those thinking about opening an account. Obviously, it's too late to take advantage for this year's WSOP, but if you are going to Vegas later in the year...

Plenty of time to get one for this year

Does anyone know if, for the 10x multi in Vegas this August, if you have to be explicitly invited/offered to participate or if it's just open to the public?

I have sent this question in to Caesars but we know it's questionable what you'll hear.

In the mean time I opted back in to promo emails so maybe something hits my inbox eventually.

There's no room offer attached so I would think it's open to all. That's no guarantee though.

It sorta sucks though, it's only during the week. I have to get time off work for it.

What days is it? By chance I'll be there during the week in late August.

August 25th - 29th

Harrahs Pompano Beach had a 10x promo earlier this year that crossed into the weekend. I was very appreciative of that. Wish they would do this more.

Amazing timing! That's when I'm there.

Ugh. I'll miss you by a day! Good luck while you're there!

I'll be in Vegas next week actually. I'll find someone in person who can tell me if the 10x is open to the public. I'll relay the answer here.

That's good news. I assume it goes without saying that their definition of "trip to Vegas" means staying in and/or gambling at one of their Vegas properties.

I received a call from my LV host inviting me to the 10x event. I ask if it was by invite or open to public. She told me it was public. Only needed to swipe at kiosk.

The last 12/15 months seems too imprecise. Is it 12 for some and 15 for others?

But it is CET so anything is possible.

That's amazing. You have managed to get actual concrete information out of CET about their rewards program.

Question about the roulette strategy. I was experimenting with a local Game King machine today and it allowed a maximum of 24 bets to be placed.

Am I wrong here or would we overall realize the same expectation just with more variance?

*When we bet 36 numbers we hit 36/38 times
*When we bet 24 numbers we hit 24/38 times but receive a higher return because we didn't lose bets in other places.

If I'm understanding right, the edge doesn't change. We just take on more variance. Am I accurate?

I really don’t see how the roulette strategy is a good one. Every electronic roulette machine I’ve seen at a CET property gives a very poor return in TCs, and the house edge on this game is very high. The cost of this is much higher than anything you could expect to lose from VP.

That's fair. Do most of the VP machines reward 10:1 for TC?

I imagine I can go to wizardofodds and just find the optimal strategies and follow that and hope to run good also.

I'm a massive novice when it comes to machines.

Eldorado scioto downs in Columbus, OH has 5x tier credits multiplier today, if anyone is in the area and looking to play some slots.

Only downside is no table games at that location, sadly.

Yes, I think that is generally true. I believe the ones that reward just 25:1 (such as the 9/6 at Caesars) have a placard on the machine that explains the lower rewards.

I plan to grind the 9/5 JOB machines at Horseshoe to get Diamond this next week while at the WSOP.

Thanks for the help. I'll be out there next week also, so I shot you a DM.

You can go to vpfree2.com and find where all the best VP machines are at each Vegas casino (though this is not always entirely up to date). This should also tell you which machines only awards 1 TC/$20 or 1 TC/$25.

As another poster mentioned, the best option for this in Vegas is probably 9/5 Jacks or Better at the $1 denominantion ($5/hand). This game not only has the best return for 1 TC/$10, it also has the easiest strategy to learn.

Aren't those 25:1 or something like that? The difference between those and the 98.x machines is tiny and likely won't matter over the short run. You don't get the full percentage anyway without a royal.

All the Vegas casinos in CET have the same machines, or the same BEST machines.

Certain casinos limit the game king roulette strategy via risk limitations, the machines sometimes say “not risking enough” or something to that effect. In vegas from what I can tell Caesars has done away with the roulette tab completely at all properties, Stations had it blocked to 24 numbers, and Boyd are the only property I have seen with the machine that allows 36/38 and receive full credits for coin in per spin.

I would imagine if the slot managers start seeing people hammer that strategy during multipliers (outside of vegas) they will make similar software updates or take it completely off the machine.

On some games, you can get around the risk limitation by playing multiple adjoining machines at the same time. Many years ago, I used to grind tier credits on video baccarat, betting banker on one machine and player on the machine next to it; the hands on these machines were linked so I would always push. But I still don’t think this is a good strategy on roulette because the house edge is so much higher.

The particular strategy for e-roulette doesn’t use a machine bank that are connected to a singular outcome, each machine has its own outcome digitally. All casinos in vegas give little to no TC’s for the auto roulette that have multiple kiosk for a single outcome (actual wheel and ball) for the exact reason you stated, they could essentially buy them for the equity lost when zero hit.

The player who originally mentioned it in this thread was able to bet 36/38 in a caesars property (outside of vegas) during multiplier to push and collect tc’s, until a zero hit. Its not as good as proper VP because the potential for royal, its just less swingy assuming a legitimate rng in the software…..(however I think the e roulette software on eroulette works from rtp but def have no way to prove this other than small sample size of spins I have done it and usually get a zero fairly quickly.)