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Old 02-25-2010, 03:15 PM   #1
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Any questions/threads/comments about WRs should go here. So fire away. If you have a question about sample size, want to know what WR to aim for, or even just want to show people how good you are at statistical math...this thread is for you!

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Old 02-25-2010, 03:27 PM   #2
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Ok, I'll start.

1/2nl live, 800+ hours. Win rate of 12.70/hr. The majority of this comes from the same group of players, most are terrible, but some have probably picked up on some of my tendencies. Maybe I would possibly have a better win rate against unknowns?

Hoping to move up to 2/5nl by the end of the year, but not sure if I'm beating 1/2nl enough yet.
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Old 02-25-2010, 03:30 PM   #3
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Ok, I'll start.

1/2nl live, 800+ hours. Win rate of 12.70/hr. The majority of this comes from the same group of players, most are terrible, but some have probably picked up on some of my tendencies. Maybe I would possibly have a better win rate against unknowns?

Hoping to move up to 2/5nl by the end of the year, but not sure if I'm beating 1/2nl enough yet.
your cap WR at 1/2 (assuming normal $200 BI) is usually going to be $20/hr. So your hourly isn't bad. I would suggest shotting the 500 game on the weekends and seeing how you feel in them

(a quick note on sample. 800hrs of live is roughly 28K hands. Most online players play this in less than a month. So just remember that although it seems like a lot of play given the hours...it is a relatively small sample size)
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FPPs>>>>>>>winrate
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Old 02-25-2010, 03:51 PM   #5
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FPPs>>>>>>>winrate
Never had rakeback on any site. Are Stars FPP comparable to rakeback you could get from FT?

Already cashed in a bunch under the new system. Seems pretty good.
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is 70k enough of a sample size to reasonably estimate a wr?

Currently beating 50nl for 5bb/100 over that sample.

Is shotting 100 in the next month or so appropriate or will that wr = me getting crushed up there?

edit: what I meant to say was nom nom FPPs

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Old 02-25-2010, 04:04 PM   #8
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what is a win rate ?
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Old 02-25-2010, 04:09 PM   #9
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is 70k enough of a sample size to reasonably estimate a wr?

Currently beating 50nl for 5bb/100 over that sample.

Is shotting 100 in the next month or so appropriate or will that wr = me getting crushed up there?
its probably the bare min that you would want to start estimating from. ive had 100k stretches where i beat 100 for 5ptbb/100 and ive had two 100k b/e stretches sandwiching it
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Rakeback is roughly $10/hour for me, so I make roughly $10/hour.
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Is there anyway to get rake back on an existing account? Sorry to derail.
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I DON'T WANT TO WIN BB, I JUST WANT FPP
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is 70k enough of a sample size to reasonably estimate a wr?

Currently beating 50nl for 5bb/100 over that sample.

Is shotting 100 in the next month or so appropriate or will that wr = me getting crushed up there?
Move up liberally while still at the micro stakes. 70k at 50 is enough to go with IMO. I think if you stay at NL2-NL50 long enough to gather an accurate historical WR, you've stayed there too long
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Is there anyway to get rake back on an existing account? Sorry to derail.
try rakebackpros.com that's how I did it.
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Old 02-25-2010, 05:38 PM   #15
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Move up liberally while still at the micro stakes. 70k at 50 is enough to go with IMO. I think if you stay at NL2-NL50 long enough to gather an accurate historical WR, you've stayed there too long
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