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11-17-2014 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by The Moocher
HP6 was Harry Potter 6 which was another game played on this site, I think you could have prolly guessed that but in the future you could just say 'what's HP6?' rather than typing out 3 sentences.
Again, is it your expectation that knowing this helps me understand anything about the difference in behaviour you are referencing and what the significance of it from your perspective might be?

*sigh*
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11-17-2014 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Phelanpt
Nevermind on cory. Getting obvtown now. Now sleep.
Have you been secretly playing in other places? What is this parlance? You think Traz is good? For what?
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11-17-2014 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by corycurren
i still agree with most of that but now i'm closer to

merk_sa

Thingyman
Top Tier Tom
TommyDanger
Luckbox?


jcohen
DWetzel
Murska


Phelanpt

I would advise you try reading posts rather than looking at lists and going "well, I'm interpreting this as wolf based on my conditional reads"

i make posts for a reason
I can read posts and also analyze lists, it's called multitasking. It's hard though, I'm kind of slow on the uptake
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11-17-2014 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Crunkus
Cory did you post this because you thought maybe I didn't figure that out?
I made a sweet, friendly appeal to you earlier in response to this because I thought after I was being kind of rude

You have been making your posts more readable whether intentionally or not

I will try to explain these things better when they come up
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11-17-2014 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by marvellosity
cory, for you:

Towniest Town who ever towned

marvellosity

People who I think are town for various reasons

Moocher
thingy
Crunkus
jcohen
tappa
TTT

Some kinda murky middle that I don't know about

dbmurph
DWetzel (pretty sure i should have one of these 2 as town, but there we have it)
merk
TommyDanger
well named
cory (as well here as anywhere right now)

Yolo Town

Luckbox

Townie for many posts but has reads that make me scratch my head

traz

Wat u doin?

yamato
lenC

Looking at them funny

Elephant
saber
Arcbell
Murska

In a group of his own because I couldn't fit him elsewhere

Athexx
So reads. But reasons are secret. Thanks for the help.
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11-17-2014 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Crunkus
Why does he appear to be pretty obv villa?

PLEASE?
The guy could barely post when wolfing in the previous game I mentioned, it was a terrible performance, the difference between those games is night and day. Now I'm not saying murph IS an obv villa here I'm just saying that he appears to be based on the other game I've seen.

And I'd like you to cut out this 'PLEASE?' nonsense as I'm getting pretty tired of your whole 'why won't everyone just play how i want them to play' schtick. We make do with what we're given, every other post from you is some sort of rant about you not getting what you need, just play the game and stop whining. Thanks in advance.
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11-17-2014 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
Anyone who really believes this is pretty lol...but we both know you don't believe that.
But this post reads guilty as ****. You sound exactly like wolf Carcino from the GoT game. He responded to me in a "haha as if you could ever believe that..." way, oozing with self-consciousness and guilt.

Don't make posts like this.
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11-17-2014 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
I can read posts and also analyze lists, it's called multitasking. It's hard though, I'm kind of slow on the uptake
I realize I'm being unfairly rude at times, please ignore it and understand I'm just a disgruntled human being at this moment
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11-17-2014 , 09:25 PM
I truly believe what I said. I know 100% that you don't think I'm openly wolfing. Yet you typed it out and posted it. So maybe YOU shouldn't post like that.
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11-17-2014 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Crunkus
Again, is it your expectation that knowing this helps me understand anything about the difference in behaviour you are referencing and what the significance of it from your perspective might be?

*sigh*
It is my expectation that you start making some reads and explanations that stop short of being >1000 words per post and try to cease bitching all the time, now be a good lad and run along.
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11-17-2014 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Crunkus
So reads. But reasons are secret. Thanks for the help.
look, you moany little dick, i was asked for a list and i gave one.

if you were reading the thread you'd know that.
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11-17-2014 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Crunkus
So reads. But reasons are secret. Thanks for the help.
Instead of doing this, maybe ask about someone in particular that interests you?

Like "hey marv, what do you think is wolfy about arcbell?"

the pace here is too fast for really long deliberations about things. if you are curious about something, just ask about that particular thing. when people have something really important to say you can bet they'll say it with more oomph than a little shortcut list to show other players where they are currently at.
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11-17-2014 , 09:28 PM
tommy danger
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11-17-2014 , 09:28 PM
I'm pretty unsure about Arcbell tbh. I might be hilariously wrong putting him there.
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11-17-2014 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by corycurren
Crunkus, can we compromise? I'll do my best to make sure things like meta references and game references are explained not only by myself but by everyone - which is a tall task since this is a meta heavy environment.

In return, I want you to try and be more direct with your sentences. If you can say something in one sentence that you wrote out in 4 or 5, cut out the fat.

I don't know if it is intention but I've seen choppier sentences from you and that has helped me start reading your posts seriously. if that's intentional then you're already doing it and thank you
I honestly think we're wasting more time with people not explaining themselves than by people explaining themselves too much. I WANT more information. We signed up for a game that mentioned we are going to have to be ready for a certain amount of investment.

I don't understand what you are referring to that should be more terse or why. I'm not going to agree to that in general. I am expressing myself for fun like most people, and that means stream of consciousness sometimes. Sorry.

But here....let's try this:
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11-17-2014 , 09:30 PM
I would really appreciate it if people could mention:

1. If they have any reads of any consequence at the moment.
2. If they don't have any reads of any consequence at the moment.
3. What the reasons for those reads are, if applicable.

Please communicate in a way that anyone in the thread can appreciate.
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11-17-2014 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
tommy danger
Or alternatively, just do this.
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11-17-2014 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Crunkus
Can you explain this like you want to be understood and you think others should be voting for The Moocher as well? Or is this a vote you aren't actually invested in?
Yea sorry I sometimes forget not everyone bothers to reread for context when they see something like that.

OK so I mentioned a gut read on Moocher. Moocher asked me to explain it. I told him it was a gut read again, and told him which posts. Moocher then comes back at me claiming to think I made the whole read up, and it's not actually based on anything.

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Originally Posted by The Moocher
so 'gut' reads can't actually be explained?

i guess what i'm getting at is that i don't think there is anything 'overly defensive/self-conscious' in those posts and that you're making that up and now can't defend why you made that read

although this whole interaction does add credence to what you were saying about single reads being 'dime a dozen'
In the top part here he is claiming that he thinks I drew the read out of thin air. He obviously knows I based the read on something, whether I'm town or mafia. No one jumps to the conclusion that a read is totally fabricated to explain why it wasn't justified, since no one totally fabricates reads -- it's always based on something whether correct or not.

His act of claiming he sincerely believes I didn't base the read on anything is a lie, most likely an instinctive one rather than a planned lie. The intent was a simple counter-fos, but he ended up saying he suspects something no thinking villager would ever jump to.

So he's mafia.
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11-17-2014 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by traz
I truly believe what I said. I know 100% that you don't think I'm openly wolfing. Yet you typed it out and posted it. So maybe YOU shouldn't post like that.
I think you want this post to sound villagery but it just doesn't.
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11-17-2014 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jcohen
-cory: so far, you've said you expect the "most heartful effort" out of me. then i came into the thread and posted a good amount. you don't comment on it or about me once, you just keep talking with tom about how you're so excited to crush this game. then you ask if I've solved the game yet

so whats the deal? you basically ignored everything I've done despite saying on page 1 you were looking forward to it, then hold up an impossible standard of whether I've solved the game or not yet

and more concerning is that I'm not sure you've given a single read so far. or at least not many, instead I've noticed you talking about your own excitement and your own meta, but not about this actual game that we are playing

of course, you said earlier you won't have time til 4 pm, and aside from that we haven't met your 12 hour obv-villa deadline yet either. so I'm patient. i just don't want a repeat of our last game
yeah work was just an absolute nightmare today, i couldn't get away for ~anything and basically was just skimming the last couple posts and commenting if i had something to say

two things that bother me

1) as of this point at least i don't think you really had posted a "good amount"; i remember that one big post from you - which i didn't really have my usual nodding-my-head-in-agreement that i'm used to having with you - but basically nothing else that was pertinent and i don't really remember you much in real time. i'll look back, but my notepad for you is pretty empty besides that one post

2) the "has jcohen solved the game yet?" was a joke, not a condemnation of you. i just think you're a good villager and wanted to make a half-joke about my willingness to sheep you in previous games
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11-17-2014 , 09:34 PM
pretty sure i've said similar things before as town Arcbell :/

just seems like a natural defensive thing to me.
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11-17-2014 , 09:34 PM
I went away and thought about it for a while, the idea that it can't be anything other than a lie aged well, so I'm going to probably push on Moocher for the remainder of the day unless there's some development.
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11-17-2014 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Arcbell
Yea sorry I sometimes forget not everyone bothers to reread for context when they see something like that.

OK so I mentioned a gut read on Moocher. Moocher asked me to explain it. I told him it was a gut read again, and told him which posts. Moocher then comes back at me claiming to think I made the whole read up, and it's not actually based on anything.



In the top part here he is claiming that he thinks I drew the read out of thin air. He obviously knows I based the read on something, whether I'm town or mafia. No one jumps to the conclusion that a read is totally fabricated to explain why it wasn't justified, since no one totally fabricates reads -- it's always based on something whether correct or not.

His act of claiming he sincerely believes I didn't base the read on anything is a lie, most likely an instinctive one rather than a planned lie. The intent was a simple counter-fos, but he ended up saying he suspects something no thinking villager would ever jump to.

So he's mafia.
I have since responded to this post, twice I think, which you're ignoring and instead choosing to reply to the same post of mine that you voted me for except your talking to the thread at large and pretending we weren't talking about this. How bizarre. I've said this already but you made your read, I disagreed with it and asked you to explain it and you said that you wouldn't.

You then went on to 'explain' it and contradicted yourself.
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11-17-2014 , 09:35 PM
in fact i don't even think he's saying you based it on nothing, he's saying you based it on something that's false, which is different
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11-17-2014 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by marvellosity
pretty sure i've said similar things before as town Arcbell :/

just seems like a natural defensive thing to me.
It's natural to think someone's read is fake, but not totally fabricated, which is his claim. The distinction is what makes it a lie.
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