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07-08-2015 , 08:01 PM

UncleDynamite

Marginalia Satan

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 28,898

Spoiler:

They've been saying for a decade that they were too old. Eventually, they are bound to be right. Is this the year? Let's find out together.

Spoiler:

Welcome to the NBA vs the San Antonio Spurs vanilla+.

IT IS NIGHT. DO NOT POST.

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07-08-2015 , 08:01 PM

UncleDynamite

Marginalia Satan

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 28,898

POG Werewolf Rules

For more details, please see Werewolf Rules And Etiquette

As long as the game is ongoing, you may talk about the game only inside the game thread
You may post in the game thread only when it is DAY
You may post only when you are alive
You may not edit or delete posts in the game thread for any reason at any time
You may not post screenshots of, or directly quote your role PM, seer peeks, or any other game-related communication that originated outside of the game thread
You are expected to participate
You are expected to be familiar with the rules, and you are expected to abide by them even if you think they are incorrect
You are expected to behave civilly
You may not discuss anything that suggests what the moderator should or should not do in any given situation, including modkills, player substitutions, etc.

Werewolf is a game about lying and catching people lying. It's an adversarial game and arguments between players are normal and expected. Passion and Intensity are fine but excessively personal attacks or insults are not. Even in a werewolf game you must respect the forum rules about civility. Failure to do so may cause you to be infracted or temp banned, and repeated problems may get you perma-banned.

Werewolf is also a community and team-based game. While there are many styles and strategies and reasons for playing and you may choose your own, you are expected to be respectful of the time and energy others put in as players and as moderators. You are expected to play to win. Intentionally sabotaging your team, or choosing strategies with the sole purpose of trolling other players in the game is not allowed.

Voting

Each day, each player is allowed (and encouraged) to vote to lynch a player. To do so, type the name of the player in bold. You may abbreviate the name of the player, provided it is clear to other players (and the VOTE COUNTER) whom you mean.

You may remove your vote by posting "unvote". You may change your vote simply by voting the new player; you do not need to unvote before voting again.

At the given time for lynch, the player with the most votes is lynched, and his role revealed in the thread. If two or more players are tied for the most votes, one of the tied players is chosen randomly by the moderator.

At Must Lynch (where if a villager is lynched the game is over) votes will be LOCKED IN. There will be no unvoting or vote changing. Make sure to vote wisely!

Day and Night Times

All times give are server time, which is also Eastern Standard Time.

I will open the thread every morning by posting "It is day." You may not post in the thread until I have made the morning post. Day will usually start around 7:00 AM.

Day lasts until 8:00 PM. Posting at 8 PM is acceptable, and votes with that time stamp will be counted. Posting after that, even just a minute after, is not acceptable, even if I have not yet declared it night by posting "It is night." Do not post in the thread at any time, for any reason, between the end of the day and the opening of the thread the next morning.

Weekends are different: There is not "night" Saturday night -- the thread remains open from Saturday morning until Sunday evening. There is no scheduled Saturday night lynch.

If any player reaches majority and is lynched before 2 pm, the moderator may, at his discretion, reopen the thread for a second game day that same day. He will do so only if it seems clear that this will not unduly disadvantage either side.

Wolf Chat
Wolves may communicate with each other by any means they desire during wolf chat. In this game, wolf chat lasts 24h.

The Roster

AllInBluff

Amy1970

BookToMarket

bopolis

Busto_Rhymes

CalledDownLight

confirmedtroll

Charry

Evene

Gadarene

gambit8888

jcohen

Montecore

Mor_Tilt4mePls

MoViN.tArGeT

mucksandgravs

mutigers

Puzzles

Quick_Ben

StuckInARutt

Sun Tzu

TehBankertin

Telcontar

TheBrokenATM!

UAW710

Viggorous

Weatherguy

Xkf

Questions and Confirmation

Any questions regarding the rules should be submitted to the moderator by PM ONLY

Must Lynch

Once you vote, your vote is locked, and you may not switch or unvote

STILL NIGHT, NO POSTING!

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07-08-2015 , 08:02 PM

UncleDynamite

Marginalia Satan

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 28,898

POG Werewolf Rules

For more details, please see Werewolf Rules And Etiquette

As long as the game is ongoing, you may talk about the game only inside the game thread
You may post in the game thread only when it is DAY
You may post only when you are alive
You may not edit or delete posts in the game thread for any reason at any time
You may not post screenshots of, or directly quote your role PM, seer peeks, or any other game-related communication that originated outside of the game thread
You are expected to participate
You are expected to be familiar with the rules, and you are expected to abide by them even if you think they are incorrect
You are expected to behave civilly
You may not discuss anything that suggests what the moderator should or should not do in any given situation, including modkills, player substitutions, etc.

Werewolf is a game about lying and catching people lying. It's an adversarial game and arguments between players are normal and expected. Passion and Intensity are fine but excessively personal attacks or insults are not. Even in a werewolf game you must respect the forum rules about civility. Failure to do so may cause you to be infracted or temp banned, and repeated problems may get you perma-banned.

Werewolf is also a community and team-based game. While there are many styles and strategies and reasons for playing and you may choose your own, you are expected to be respectful of the time and energy others put in as players and as moderators. You are expected to play to win. Intentionally sabotaging your team, or choosing strategies with the sole purpose of trolling other players in the game is not allowed.

Voting

Each day, each player is allowed (and encouraged) to vote to lynch a player. To do so, type the name of the player in bold. You may abbreviate the name of the player, provided it is clear to other players (and the VOTE COUNTER) whom you mean.

You may remove your vote by posting "unvote". You may change your vote simply by voting the new player; you do not need to unvote before voting again.

At the given time for lynch, the player with the most votes is lynched, and his role revealed in the thread. If two or more players are tied for the most votes, one of the tied players is chosen randomly by the moderator.

At Must Lynch (where if a villager is lynched the game is over) votes will be LOCKED IN. There will be no unvoting or vote changing. Make sure to vote wisely!

Day and Night Times

All times give are server time, which is also Eastern Standard Time.

I will open the thread every morning by posting "It is day." You may not post in the thread until I have made the morning post. Day will usually start around 7:00 AM.

Day lasts until 8:00 PM. Posting at 8 PM is acceptable, and votes with that time stamp will be counted. Posting after that, even just a minute after, is not acceptable, even if I have not yet declared it night by posting "It is night." Do not post in the thread at any time, for any reason, between the end of the day and the opening of the thread the next morning.

Weekends are different: There is not "night" Saturday night -- the thread remains open from Saturday morning until Sunday evening. There is no scheduled Saturday night lynch.

If any player reaches majority and is lynched before 2 pm, the moderator may, at his discretion, reopen the thread for a second game day that same day. He will do so only if it seems clear that this will not unduly disadvantage either side.

Wolf Chat
Wolves may communicate with each other by any means they desire during wolf chat. In this game, wolf chat lasts 24h.

The Roster

AllInBluff

Amy1970

BookToMarket

bopolis

Busto_Rhymes

CalledDownLight

confirmedtroll

Charry

Evene

Gadarene

gambit8888

jcohen

Montecore

Mor_Tilt4mePls

MoViN.tArGeT

mucksandgravs

mutigers

Puzzles

Quick_Ben

StuckInARutt

Sun Tzu

TehBankertin

Telcontar

TheBrokenATM!

UAW710

Viggorous

Weatherguy

Xkf

Questions and Confirmation

Any questions regarding the rules should be submitted to the moderator by PM ONLY

Must Lynch

Once you vote, your vote is locked, and you may not switch or unvote

STILL NIGHT, NO POSTING!

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07-08-2015 , 08:04 PM

UncleDynamite

Marginalia Satan

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 28,898

*****The roles*****

Village (21)

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1) 1 Peek Originator. Receives a vanilla villager role PM. Every night, starting n0, will submit a peek (he cannot peek himself) but will not receive its results. Every villager that receives the vanilla villager PM could theoretically be the peek originator, so every vanilla villager will submit a peek at night. Those who fail to do that, will lose their action for that night, i.e. it will not be randomised. Reveals as a vanilla villager.

Peeks as a power role to the wolf power seer.

2) 1 Death Seer Peek Receiver. Receives a vanilla villager role PM. After he dies, the affiliation of the players peeked by the Peek Originator will immediately be rendered public. If the Peek Originator is dead when the Death Seer Peek Receiver dies, the Peek Originator true identity is going to be revealed. If the Peek Originator dies before the Death Seer Peek Receiver does, the latter will immediately lose his ability to "receive" new peeks. This effect will also take place if the Peek Originator is permaroleblocked.

Peeks as a power role to the wolf power seer.

3) 1 Suicide affiliation seer. Gets a randomised villager n0 peek. If he peeks a wolf, he kills said wolf and dies, and angel effects will not protect either of them. Should he die for peeking a wolf, the reveal flavour will clearly indicate that. Should he peek the wolf Godfather Redirector, he will receive a "villager" result, and both will survive.

4) 1 Day 2 and 3 vigilante.

5) 1 Night vigilante. Starting night 1.

6) 1 Decoy. Receives a vanilla villager PM. Peeks as a power role to the wolf Power Role Seer.

7) and 8) 2 Votebuying Masons. They have 24h chat starting n0 and can move one vote from the daily final votecount to their preferred destination before the lynch reveal. Unclaimable until one of the mason dies. Cannot claim an unclaimable role.
If one of them dies, the other loses his voting ability. The voting ability is lost regardless at must lynch.

9) 1 50% back-up vigilante. Receives a vanilla villager role PM. If the village vigilante dies, the back-up vigilante receives his true role PM and gets a 50% night vigilante shot, starting from the night after which the village vigilante died. Cannot be roleblocked or perma-roleblocked.

10) 1 Night and Day Angel. Starting night 1. Selects a target at night and protects them from the first attempt on their life during that night/day cycle. This does not work against the lynch. Cannot target the same player on consecutive nights, but can target himself.

11 vanilla villagers.

Wolves (7)

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1) 1 Rebounding Angel. May protect a player per night. Can target himself, but cannot target the same player on consecutive nights. Every time he successfully angels a player, the wolf day vigilante will get a 15% boost for the next day (this stacks with the boost of the Godfather Redirector). Will not receive any information if this happens.

2) 1 50% day vigilante. Starting day 2. Is not told if his rand fails.

3) 1 50% night vigilante. Starting night 1. Is not told if his rand fails.

4) 1 Super roleblocker. Has a roleblock per night starting night 3, and can permaroleblock a player on nights 1 and 2. Cannot target the same player on consecutive nights. His roleblock last for the night and the following day.
If he permaroleblocks the Decoy, the decoy will peek as a vanilla villager.
If permaroleblocked, the Death Seer Peek Receiver will lose the ability to "receive" new peeks, but after his death, the peek that were already "received" will still be published.

5) 1 Godfather Redirector. Peeks as a villager to the village suicide affiliation seer (both will survive) and reveals as a villager if the Death Seer Peek Receiver "receives" a peek of him.
Has a redirect per night, starting night 1. Cannot redirect an action from the same person on consecutive nights; cannot redirect an action to the same person for three nights in a row. Every night he successfully redirects a village power role that was not peeked by the wolf power seer, the wolf day vigilante will receive a 15% boost for the next day (this stacks with the boost of the Rebounding Angel). Will not receive any information if this happens.

6) 1 2-shot Claim assassin. Every day, starting day 2, he can send a playername and a power role to the moderator. If the playername and the charname match, that player will die. If they do not, the Claim Assassin will die, and angel effects will not protect him. This power can be used twice during the game, cannot be used twice on the same day, and cannot be used more than once on a player that has been peeked by the power role seer.

7) 1 Power Seer Split Jailkeeper. Every night, starting night 1, he can submit a player name and learn whether they are a village power role or not.
Every night, starting night 1, he may target a player and protect him from death for the following day. This will also roleblock his target for the night after the day in which the target was protected. The protection does not work against the lynch.
Restrictions: cannot target the same player on consecutive nights and cannot target the same wolf more than twice per game.

STILL NIGHT, NO POSTING!

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07-08-2015 , 08:06 PM

UncleDynamite

Marginalia Satan

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 28,898

Things you should know:

0) Do not claim or even hint at your character name (i.e. the NBA player that you have randed). This is an instant modkill.
1) Do not edit your post (this includes post titles) for any reason. This is an instant modkill.
2) Every villager that receives the vanilla villager role PM will have to submit a peek every night, starting night 0.
3) There is a participation requirement of 10 posts per gameday. For every post that limit, you will have a 5% of getting modkilled (9 posts=5% to get modkilled... 0 posts=50% to get modkilled).
4) Day breaks at 7AM EST. Night falls at 8PM EST.
5) All night actions should be submitted by 6AM EST, and will be processed at that time. All day actions, save for the masons' votebuying power, should be submitted by 5PM EST, and will be processed at that time.
6) If something prevents you from playing, please send me a timely PM, and I will try to arrange a sub for you.
7) Do not talk about mod communications! If you have doubts, PM me first.

STILL NIGHT, NO POSTING!

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07-08-2015 , 08:08 PM

UncleDynamite

Marginalia Satan

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 28,898

FAQ: on peeking, roleblocking and other stuff..

Q: The Peek Originator (PO from now on) has been roleblocked. What happens?
A: The Peek originator does not send a peek to the Death Seer Peek Receiver (DSPR from now on). Hence, the DSPR will not "receive" a peek on that night, i.e. when the DSPR dies, that night's peek will not be revealed.

Q: The DSPR has been roleblocked. What happens?
A: The DSPR will not "receive" a peek on that night, i.e. when the DSPR dies, that night's peek will not be revealed.

Q: The DSPR has been killed while roleblocked! What happens?
A: If this happened at night, the DSPR will not receive that night's peek (see above for consequences).
However, the DSPR's passive ability to reveal peeks that have been "received" cannot be roleblocked, or permaroleblocked. Thus, after DSPR's death, I will still publish the peeks that he received.

Q: I have been roleblocked. Will I learn of this?
A: Obviously not.

Q: I have been permaroleblocked. Will I learn of this?
A: Yes.

Q: A mason has been permaroleblocked, but is still alive. Do the mason retain their votebuying powers? Are the mason allowed to claim their role?
A: No and no.

Q: What does the vanilla villager role PM look like?
A:

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You are either a vanilla villager, the village Peek Originator, the village Death Seer Peek Receiver, the village Decoy, or the village 50% back-up vigilante.

Given that you could be the village Peek Originator, please submit a peek every night, starting this one.

In any case, you are most certainly a villager! Here is the link to the gamethread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...hread-1545146/

Q: What is the village and wolf win conditions?
A: To eliminate the wolf team and to reach irrevocable parity with the village, respectively.

STILL NIGHT, NO POSTING!

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07-08-2015 , 08:43 PM

UncleDynamite

Marginalia Satan

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 28,898

All role PMs have been sent. If there is a problem, contact me via PM. I am going the hell to bed in 30', though, so my answer might be belated :/

STILL NIGHT, NO POSTING!

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07-09-2015 , 07:01 AM

UncleDynamite

Marginalia Satan

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 28,898

IT IS DAY!

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07-09-2015 , 07:04 AM

confirmedtroll

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 22,949

Good talk

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07-09-2015 , 07:05 AM

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confirmedtroll

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 22,949

Hard claim seer

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07-09-2015 , 07:06 AM

#11

confirmedtroll

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 22,949

Ok ttyl frands

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07-09-2015 , 07:08 AM

#12

TehBankertin

[blod]

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17,032

first!

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07-09-2015 , 07:11 AM

#13

TehBankertin

[blod]

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17,032

So I think we should all leave our peeks so that way when the PO flips we will know who is confirmed and it counts as another confirmed town. I will be doing it and I encourage the rest of village to do the same thing.

With that being said: n0 Weatherguy sup sup :P

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07-09-2015 , 07:15 AM

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TehBankertin

[blod]

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17,032

Man why is no one up in the middle of the night?

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07-09-2015 , 07:19 AM

#15

TehBankertin

[blod]

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17,032

Alright I randed the player list:

StuckInARutt
UAW710
mucksandgravs
Viggorous
Busto_Rhymes
bopolis
BookToMarket
Quick_Ben
Evene
CalledDownLight
jcohen
gambit8888
Weatherguy
Mor_Tilt4mePls
Telcontar
confirmedtroll
Sun Tzu
TehBankertin
Charry
AllInBluff
Montecore
MoViN.tArGeT
Xkf
Amy1970
TheBrokenATM!
Gadarene
Puzzles
mutigers

Game solved Should we rerand?

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07-09-2015 , 07:20 AM

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StuckinARutt

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 38,148

sup

still trying to wrap my head around all mechanics but I'm not sure outing our peeks is the best move

it only helps as you say if the PO flips before the DSPR. But then again, I can't think of why it would hurt. Wolves can't actually do any seer hunting with the info. I'll let better players chime in

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07-09-2015 , 07:26 AM

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StuckinARutt

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anyway normal work days today and tomorrow for me so probably not much posting during but i'll follow along since there shouldn't be that many posts with this many players and the signup's amount of slank cover

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07-09-2015 , 07:28 AM

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StuckinARutt

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Yea on second thought Bank you're right

no reason not to straight up out your peeks

no reason to hide them even, wolves can't seer hunt with it. if the PO flips we need the full value from his death

n0 = viggo

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07-09-2015 , 07:30 AM

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StuckinARutt

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one thing I guess is that by day 2-3 if wolves see that a villager has peeked mostly wolves they might leave that player alive incase he flips DSPR and ruins their whole team

but then again, if we get to that point and DSPR hasn't flipped it's probably beneficial to lynch players with the most live peeks. well we'll talk about that later

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07-09-2015 , 07:35 AM

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TehBankertin

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Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17,032

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Originally Posted by StuckinARutt

The point is that if you say your peeks then when the peek dude dies that receives your peeks you can search peoples histories and the person doing the peeks is outed unless I read the roels wrong it confirms the PO when the other guy dies and all his peeks which is like an insane swing for us.

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07-09-2015 , 07:37 AM

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StuckinARutt

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Actually no I don't think the PO has anything to do with it, he just has to stay alive so we can all keep peeking

it's the death seer that we want alive for as long as possible, and when he dies, presumably a bunch of people will be 'mod peeked' essentially

no?

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07-09-2015 , 07:39 AM

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confirmedtroll

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 22,949

I already did my job by nerfing the wolf roles pre-game and randing villager

Your turn

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07-09-2015 , 07:41 AM

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confirmedtroll

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 22,949

Main suckage about village roles is that we dont have any RBing and they have 1000 actions

The seering should be nice tho

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07-09-2015 , 07:42 AM

#24

confirmedtroll

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 22,949

In any case I'm most certainly a villager

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07-09-2015 , 07:43 AM

#25

TehBankertin

[blod]

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 17,032

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Originally Posted by StuckinARutt

As suicide seer you can leave all yours peeks and when you bink a wolf its known.

Also If I flip seer I'd assume at least one of my green checks is the god father or redirected or some such non-sense. Just to be safe.

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