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05-15-2017 , 04:57 PM

twisterk

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 202

V is a reg, 21/16/6

Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37726124

UTG: $16 (100 bb)
MP: $11.21 (70.1 bb)
CO: $16 (100 bb)
BTN: $16.28 (101.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $22.59 (141.2 bb)
BB: $16 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.48, BB calls $0.32

Flop: ($0.96) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.69, BB calls $0.69

Turn: ($2.34) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($2.34) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, BB raises to $3.36, Hero folds

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What do you think about x/c flop?

Happy to hear any thoughts in general

Thanks!

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05-15-2017 , 05:14 PM

UpDog

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 441

I like bet fold, hes never (rarely) betting with worse when checked to on river. Maybe like 9c but even then i think you can agree that thatd be a bad bet that not a lot of people would do. Bet folding allows us to go for relatively thin value as there are many hands theyll call with like 9c and even 7c 6c sometimes. As for sizing, i suggest something smaller as we are betting thin and it allows calls from worse hands like even the 3c sometimes.

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05-15-2017 , 07:11 PM

mchares

adept

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,037

If we go back to the flop, why are why betting? for sho we are trying to get better hands to fold (dont think he's folding happy here very often), so if we're not accomplishing the objective that much so is not bad to check... x/c or x/f? Id x/c, several bluffing turn cards he can continue on will improve our hand...
Between betting and x/c OTF, I think we gain more or lose less by x/c.

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05-15-2017 , 07:34 PM

whitemares

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 5,762

Bet smaller otr

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Originally Posted by mchares

x/c otf is fine, but betting serves to fold out a lot of Ax/Kx/small pair combos.

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05-15-2017 , 07:37 PM

Yacht67

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Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 237

If we played as is until the river, and instead on the river x/c would that have been better, instead of raising?

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05-15-2017 , 07:38 PM

mchares

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,037

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Originally Posted by whitemares

Bet smaller otr

x/c otf is fine, but betting serves to fold out a lot of Ax/Kx/small pair combos.

^ Yes, thats a good point, that makes betting not bad neither, so depending on the opponent we can pick one or the other... what other factor we can use to determine which one we can pick?

Thanks in advance for the response.

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05-15-2017 , 07:41 PM

mchares

adept

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,037

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Originally Posted by Yacht67

If we played as is until the river, and instead on the river x/c would that have been better, instead of raising?

Pardon me, Can you please make your question again?

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05-15-2017 , 08:09 PM

.isolated

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21,495

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Originally Posted by mchares

Pardon me, Can you please make your question again?

He meant instead of betting, obviously. He's asking if c/c is better otr. Obviously it isn't

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05-16-2017 , 01:22 AM

Brokenstars

Verified Coach NLHE

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 16,127

i like x/c flop

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05-17-2017 , 02:10 PM

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twisterk

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Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 202

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Originally Posted by Yacht67

If we played as is until the river, and instead on the river x/c would that have been better, instead of raising?

Don't think so. x/c is the worst line IMO

Thanks for the comments!

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05-17-2017 , 09:48 PM

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Yacht67

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Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 237

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Originally Posted by twisterk

Don't think so. x/c is the worst line IMO

Thanks for the comments!

Yeah I see it better now.

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