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06-24-2012 , 09:41 AM
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I am starting to ****ing hope he has some major leaks atm because if this can happen to anyone this is ****ing scary .
FWIW, i looked some games and i saw pretty big mistake in a tons of HU that he made
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06-24-2012 , 10:03 AM
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Yup, it can't be bad luck anymore ^^
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06-24-2012 , 10:09 AM
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FWIW, i looked some games and i saw pretty big mistake in a tons of HU that he made
How do you figure? Do you have a 1.000.000 hands on every opponent he was facing? Not that I think there might not be failure involved, you should elaborate a little further though.
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06-24-2012 , 10:22 AM
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This is why I tell my kids to stay away from HYPERS!
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06-24-2012 , 10:24 AM
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How do you figure? Do you have a 1.000.000 hands on every opponent he was facing? Not that I think there might not be failure involved, you should elaborate a little further though.
^its not that hard to spot hu mistakes, while almost everyone calls nash <10bbs and maybe he shoved with j5o for 10bbs or 65o for 7bb its clearly a 'noticable mistake'

just quessing, i waste time in other ways than railing someone push/folding
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06-24-2012 , 10:25 AM
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^its not that hard to spot hu mistakes, while almost everyone calls nash <10bbs and maybe he shoved with j5o for 10bbs or 65o for 7bb its clearly a 'noticable mistake'
Really?
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06-24-2012 , 10:26 AM
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i agree, im no hyper expert but i noticed mistakes in his play, not playing bubbly correctly IMO, still i hope he can pull it back i think its time to give up tho
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06-24-2012 , 10:41 AM
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i am a hyper grinder with good results that played alot with him this week. i think he should be close to 0% at 100s (either way possible) not sure about 60s and for sure + at 30s. these results do not represent his EV
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06-24-2012 , 10:52 AM
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i am a hyper grinder with good results that played alot with him this week. i think he should be close to 0% at 100s (either way possible) not sure about 60s and for sure + at 30s. these results do not represent his EV
Hypers been your grind for how long now? Your results good in all forms it seems - u could just left that outs we woulda just assumed it.
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06-24-2012 , 11:01 AM
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i am a hyper grinder with good results that played alot with him this week. i think he should be close to 0% at 100s (either way possible) not sure about 60s and for sure + at 30s. these results do not represent his EV
Just like your results don't represent your EV ?

Did you study his game or are you just asuming with what you have seen? Not all types of leaks are spotted easily while playing imo. Nor is it difficult for results to impact your game without realising it.
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06-24-2012 , 11:07 AM
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Wait, are people seriously doubting a person with a 0-2% roi can have a 8k -4% roi stretch? I think this would be fairly standard
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06-24-2012 , 11:16 AM
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Wait, are people seriously doubting a person with a 0-2% roi can have a 8k -4% roi stretch? I think this would be fairly standard
It's really hard to tell if you're serious or ironic, but it's a 500BI downswing in a STT format, I'd like to think those bitches are rare.
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06-24-2012 , 11:25 AM
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Hypers been your grind for how long now? Your results good in all forms it seems - u could just left that outs we woulda just assumed it.
im trying to stop all these 2$ noobs to berate phase his game that was all i was trying to do.

phase is down 25k on 60-200 on a 70 abi which is 400 buyins. a boatload but not unheard of with a 0% evROI

offcourse if his EV is -1 he is fcked but still not close to -9% at 60-200s what it is now
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06-24-2012 , 11:29 AM
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It's really hard to tell if you're serious or ironic, but it's a 500BI downswing in a STT format, I'd like to think those bitches are rare.
Yeah this. I do wish Phase a tonne of success, but even I'm at the point saying to myself that there's no way that this could just be a downswing. There surely must be some leaks or spots that he's missing while mass-tabling. Which is going to make this bet lol hard, because if he cuts down tables he loses volume, if he keeps same tables and he has leaks he's losing money.

Hope it just is a downswing, but fearing for the worst at this point. GL Phase.
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06-24-2012 , 11:48 AM
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Lol guys look at the entry fee graph bottom middle. He's just running really bad at higher stakes.
Still has a good shot at this for sure, people that think he doesn't are dumb imo.
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06-24-2012 , 12:21 PM
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why is he even pulling out such insane propbets? just attention whoring that he gets on team pokerstars online...its disgusting.....and now he runs bad and has digged himself a 25K$ hole....well if he needs it.
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06-24-2012 , 12:27 PM
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Wait, are people seriously doubting a person with a 0-2% roi can have a 8k -4% roi stretch? I think this would be fairly standard
This, you guys are unreal in this thread lol.

Fwiw, PS hypers were my normal for the last 8 months, these types of swings weren't really happening at the $30s, but this is fairly common **** at the $100s and $200s.

Here's a graph from another reg I have a lot of respect for, this is all within the last month, filtered to 6-6man, super turbo, and sng only

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06-24-2012 , 01:03 PM
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you rakeback whores make me sick
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06-24-2012 , 01:09 PM
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This, you guys are unreal in this thread lol.

Fwiw, PS hypers were my normal for the last 8 months, these types of swings weren't really happening at the $30s, but this is fairly common **** at the $100s and $200s.

Here's a graph from another reg I have a lot of respect for, this is all within the last month, filtered to 6-6man, super turbo, and sng only
Right so why would anyone want to put themselves through something like this?
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06-24-2012 , 01:13 PM
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This, you guys are unreal in this thread lol.

Fwiw, PS hypers were my normal for the last 8 months, these types of swings weren't really happening at the $30s, but this is fairly common **** at the $100s and $200s.

Here's a graph from another reg I have a lot of respect for, this is all within the last month, filtered to 6-6man, super turbo, and sng only
This guy probably grinds the high stakes hyper satties too though no?

Sick if it's just the regular hypers .

And obv he still has a shot he'd be stupid to quit now but he'd be stupid too if he didn't doubt one second wether he's doing something wrong or not .
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06-24-2012 , 01:39 PM
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This guy probably grinds the high stakes hyper satties too though no?

Sick if it's just the regular hypers .

And obv he still has a shot he'd be stupid to quit now but he'd be stupid too if he didn't doubt one second wether he's doing something wrong or not .
regular hypers, no satties
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06-24-2012 , 01:48 PM
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Does anyone have an insane rungood graph of hypers over a similar sample size?
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06-24-2012 , 01:53 PM
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Sigh, some people here have to realise that a 8k game hyper sample size isnt the same as a 8k game turbo (or god forbid regular speed) sample size. It is perfect possible to have a -4% ROI over 8k games when your "true ROI" is somewhere between 0-2%. So please stop to ****** this thread here up so much. Thx!

glgl!
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06-24-2012 , 01:57 PM
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Does anyone have an insane rungood graph of hypers over a similar sample size?
Not insaneeee but pretty sweet 3500 game rungoot, all at $100s

didn't search this out that hard, just remembered this player heatered the $100s hard when they first came out

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06-24-2012 , 04:38 PM
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I think you guys are being a bit harsh on phase. Yeh he probably has leaks, but anyone would be leaky if they were trying to play as many games in this short period of time. He deserves respect for not giving up regardless. Being respectful would mean shutting up if you dont have anything nice to say IMO (especially if you dont even play these games).

Hope it turns around for you phase.
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