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09-24-2008 , 03:23 PM
I always tell players to buy any 2p2 book and nev/rarely buy none 2p2 books. i just assumed i was going to buy HUNL in blind faith, that is until i read that excerpt from it in the september issue. Ed's shortstacking manual and now this!? Heads up short stacking? That was either the worst excerpt choice ever or this book is going to be a waste of my time.

ps ill prob buy HUNL anyway, but im not looking forward to it. Chalk it up to metagame research.
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09-24-2008 , 05:45 PM
aw mine's already in the mail.
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10-18-2008 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by riverspecialist
Ed's shortstacking manual and now this!? Heads up short stacking? That was either the worst excerpt choice ever or this book is going to be a waste of my time.
You can play short stack heads up in tournaments...so it might not be a waste of your time if you plan to play any tournament
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11-02-2008 , 08:40 PM
HUSNGs when blinds get huge?
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11-03-2008 , 01:30 AM
Odd I'am just sitting down to read this book. I thought hey I'll jump on real quick and see if there are any reviews. I hope you are not just judging this on the sample.
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11-03-2008 , 02:47 AM
How can you judge a book, reading the excerpt??? It's like judge a movie reading only the title
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11-04-2008 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by HuSngLearner
How can you judge a book, reading the excerpt??? It's like judge a movie reading only the title
Um, that's the exact purpose of an excerpt. It's supposed to help you judge whether or not to buy the book.
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11-04-2008 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by StellarWind
Um, that's the exact purpose of an excerpt. It's supposed to help you judge whether or not to buy the book.
I quoted you for stating the truth.
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11-04-2008 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by HuSngLearner
It's like judge a movie reading only the title
Actually, judging a movie reading only the title is like judging a book reading only the title.

DUCY?
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11-05-2008 , 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Coacaza
You can play short stack heads up in tournaments...so it might not be a waste of your time if you plan to play any tournament
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Originally Posted by szamvan
HUSNGs when blinds get huge?
Exactly. Of course if you plan to play specific heads up games you will likely find it even more relevant.

FWIW I think buying a book on 'blind faith' regardless of author or publisher is a mistake, and there are plenty of good non 2p2 books out there. Of course you can get a taste of any book from an excerpt but if I were you I'd reserve judgement till you've read a bit more of this one.
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11-05-2008 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Faybio
Actually, judging a movie reading only the title is like judging a book reading only the title.

DUCY?

Actually, reading the title and reading an excerpt is not the same either?

DUCY?
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11-05-2008 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rocky1210
Actually, reading the title and reading an excerpt is not the same either?

DUCY?
The above quote makes no sense. DUCY?
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12-09-2008 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Faybio
Actually, judging a movie reading only the title is like judging a book reading only the title.
LOL, good stuff!.
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12-09-2008 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by smbruin22
LOL, good stuff!.
FWIW, I felt HUNL was a worthwhile read. There are situations where one can end up in a HU short-stacked situation (high blinds, early bad beat, etc.) and Colin was correct to address it. Perhaps not the strongest excerpt to choose, but the book itself shouldn't be condemned.
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12-09-2008 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by HuSngLearner
How can you judge a book, reading the excerpt??? It's like judge a movie reading only the title
it was already pointed out that this analogy is god awful. but how can you not see that it's clearly more comparable to judging a movie based on the previews, because that's essentially what an excerpt is. and yes, that's kind of what previews are for
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12-09-2008 , 11:17 PM
Next time I'm HU at a tournament final table I'll look for the addon button...
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12-10-2008 , 04:05 AM
Best poker book iv read TBH (and i rarely play HU) id recommend it to any1 playing HU 50nl 6max and up and even 100nl fullring. Consider most pots these days are only 2 or 3way this book gives u alot of insight into playing those pots.

Dont worry its not a how to guide on playing shortstack Push/Fold, there is some but i feel it mainly looks at deeper stack.

He probably covers over 100 topics with each topic giving 1 or 2 handhistories. How Matt descibes them is awesome with deep summary of ALL STREETS. Its in capitals because iv never seen so much flop/turn/river analyis done before to this standard before and is what makes me say PLZ DONT BUY THIS BOOK, IT WILL IMPROVE UR GAME!
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12-10-2008 , 07:12 AM
Yeah, people thinking this book is about short-stacking (without even reading the book no less!) is pretty lol. Yes, the book addresses playing with short effective stacks because it was published to address all heads up games, both HUSNGs as well as HU cash. But that doesn't mean that that's the focus of the book.

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Originally Posted by killtime
How Matt descibes them is awesome with deep summary of ALL STREETS.
You mean Collin?
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12-10-2008 , 08:27 AM
Matt wtf, yeh colin moshman
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12-10-2008 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rocky1210
Actually, reading the title and reading an excerpt is not the same either?

DUCY?
Reading the excerpt would be like judging the movie from the previews, DUH!
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12-11-2008 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Faybio
FWIW, I felt HUNL was a worthwhile read. There are situations where one can end up in a HU short-stacked situation (high blinds, early bad beat, etc.) and Colin was correct to address it. Perhaps not the strongest excerpt to choose, but the book itself shouldn't be condemned.
my "LOL, good stuff!" was serious. i thought your comment was very funny. good delivery!
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12-11-2008 , 11:07 PM
In most tourneys I've been in I'm usually pretty short once it gets down to two players. I think its extremely relevant.
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01-06-2009 , 09:51 AM
I an some other posters gave some info and quasi-reviews on that book in this thread, if you wanted some more details. As far as worrying about shortstackers, that ship has long since sailed guys. It's out there and not a big secret.
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01-06-2009 , 06:42 PM
It's a great book. Good strategy - controversial - but good.
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01-09-2009 , 10:38 PM
Hopefully not too far off topic, but his SNG book and his vids at Stox are both excellent...Just bought the book and I expect it will be the same!
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