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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
Perhaps they should train more doctors then, instead of artificially limiting the number and having this doctor crunch?
Is it also possible that ERs get less busy as people start seeing doctors prior to escalation of illnesses (and those who now go to ER for injuries and ailments may go to a doctor's office instead)?
ER's aren't where the shortage is really.
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I love love love the "We can't possibly supply enough doctors for all the people who actually need them in this country" argument. I mean what do we think we are, a first-world country or something?
Let's just face facts and admit we aren't as good as Japan, Australia, S Korea, Canada, South Africa, every country in Europe and a bunch more. We already have more violence and much higher income inequality than those countries. Let's just go the whole 9 yards and let people die in the streets or sell their children into indentured servitude for life-saving surgery like they do in India. End the minimum wage and social safety nets now. Time to thin the herd and get lean, mean and strong again. Freedom is slavery.
Who is saying this? Because I'm pretty sure I'm describing the facts.
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
The "not enough doctors" thing is just such a perfect crystallization of the "I've got mine, **** everybody else" mindset. So, OK, let's grant some premises. There are not enough doctors to provide health care instantly on demand to a population with 99% health insurance instead of 85% health insurance. So that's a reason to oppose giving those people health insurance? You don't want to wait, so **** those poors let them die in the street? That's literally the only explanation for that, if that was a sincere argument.
Of course, the real explanation is that opponents of Obamacare, TO A MAN, have no ****ing idea how health care, health insurance, Obamacare, taxes, etc. work. They see a bad thing tangentially related to health care(ergo related to Obamacare), they get S00PER EXCITED. It's not just that they don't understand, they cannot even comprehended that it is possible to understand.
And no one is saying this either.
Cool story though guys. There are significant problems with Obamacare, whether you like it or not. Instead of reflexing calling **** chocolate you should try fixing the issues, because you're gonna eat that brown stuff sooner or later.