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08-15-2014 , 08:47 PM
Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

MP: $48.47 (193.9 bb)
CO: $11.67 (46.7 bb)
BTN: $40.14 (160.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $25 (100 bb)
BB: $39.26 (157 bb)
UTG: $21.14 (84.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A 6 2 A
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 7 K Q (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $2.15, Hero calls $2.15, BB folds

Turn: ($6.55) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $6.27, Hero?



MP is 53/30 over 200 hands. 65% cbet flop, 64% cbet turn. Pot seems to be his standard sizing on all streets.

How is my line? Thought i should be at least calling otf, bc his range is superwide there.
How do you proceed ott?
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08-15-2014 , 08:54 PM
3bet pre.

As played just fold flop, or at least turn.
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08-15-2014 , 08:57 PM
Thought these AA were to crappy to 3b pre. Or is the suited Ace enough of a reason to 3b oop?
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08-16-2014 , 05:39 AM
Unless your 3bet % is really low and pretty much only consists of premium rundowns and AA then these AA are definitely good enough to 3bet.
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08-16-2014 , 07:25 AM
Just wondering why every poster advised me not to 3b AA in this thread?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/38...-flop-1466757/


Where is the difference? Aren't these spots not similar?

I just see the difference in one Ace beeing suited and the pot being likely 3 way oop. Would you advise to 3b those AA as well?

Sorry guys, i am a plo noob would appreciate someone taking the time and explaining to me when to 3b oop and when just to flat AA. I really don't get it.
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08-16-2014 , 07:42 AM
In the other thread there were already 2 players in the pot so getting HU (which is what you want with bad aces) is unlikely. Here though there's only been one raise so unless BB cold calls you're going to be HU. Being suited also helps because AA + NFD is nearly always going to be v strong post-flop.
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08-16-2014 , 07:53 AM
tyvm
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08-16-2014 , 11:01 AM
Double-suited aces - always 3bet

Single-suited aces - almost always 3bet

Unsuited aces - Its about 50/50. Honestly I feel players fail to 3bet them too often. But out of position kind of deepish in a multiway pot I prefer just calling.
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08-16-2014 , 11:09 AM
pre can go either way, i donīt mind a flat sometimes.
as played, iīm prob c/f flop although i donīt really like it, but imo we are getting barrelled of by this guy a decent amount of time, + we only have blockers to a str8 draw and donīt have blockers to any value hands + no bds at all, and we have bb behind us.
again, i donīt like folding what likely currently is the best hand, but imo it will play out pretty bad for us on most runouts.

as further played, what was your plan otf when facing blank turns vs this guy? has to be c/c or even c/shoving imo, which i feel is overplaying, but if i get there vs a notorious barreler, iīm taking the high variance play and c/pot it. dislike it though quite strongly, which is why i would c/f flop, but as played c/shoving seems to be our best option in a pretty marginal situation.
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08-16-2014 , 12:28 PM
Yes, check/shove was my plan and it felt extremly spewy, even though it seemed like the best option ott. Agree with c/f flop in order to minimize our potential losses later on, even though i feel we are good a huge % of the time. Thanks for all responses so far.
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08-16-2014 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by siebenacht
Yes, check/shove was my plan and it felt extremly spewy, even though it seemed like the best option ott. Agree with c/f flop in order to minimize our potential losses later on, even though i feel we are good a huge % of the time. Thanks for all responses so far.
not too spewy imo, just high variance madness. but at least you had the haaaat and commitment!
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