H1 I prefer flatting pre, although 3betting can't be a mistake. Then I would just x/c flop I guess. Going small and folding to a raise is fine too and might even be better.

H2 I think is wp although its coming close to a fold ott

I'd x/c flop H1, and I'd also check flop in H2. As played with H2 I probably call it off.

@fish

hand 1: why did you cbet? i think you played it fine but why did you plan to realize your value this way?

hand 2: i wouldnt call turn vs fish but then again why did you cbet and not c/c instead?

i think both hands are one street hands but i believe c/c is better than betting? the gto guys probably know better.





can you elaborate more into this? why do you think we dont have range advantage when we call? yes its the sb not the bb but still the 3-bettor can be polarized here and this board hits better the caller's range but nevertheless why does sb crush bu the way you described? do you mean there are not enough hands on bu's range to defend if he raise with them?

I assumed SB using linear 3betting range, which is usually the case.

I didn't really look the maths closely here to see exactly how close SB can start betting for value, but when BU starts raising most sets and twopairs and straights, 9x + some draws becomes the top of his range (TT prob 4bets pre). So when turn and river bricks, SB can either bet very thinly for value for 3 streets, or if BU doesn't defend the top of his calling range, SB can just bet 100% of his air for 3 streets and print money.

So when V raises here, and I know he is polarized and somewhat balanced It sucks, but I'll just look at my own betting range and try to call down (prob 3bet some) fairly balanced on runouts that doesn't smash his bluffing range.

But when he flats the flopbet on boards like this and my HUD says that V just is raising very often in 3betpots IP, I can extrapolate that to assume V has wide raising range on boards like this. So I just bet way way more thinly for value than I would against some other opponent.

Noticed afterwards I had the Ac but I still think there is some flushdraws in his range. Not many 3's in his range and I think he would raise trips at some point before the river. So basically im targeting Qx hands and doing kind of a blocking bet on the river as that's the amount I would check call.

Any pointers?

UTG: 41.98 BB (VPIP: 82.93, PFR: 28.66, 3Bet Preflop: 7.58, Hands: 171)
CO: 110.59 BB (VPIP: 24.68, PFR: 19.57, 3Bet Preflop: 10.75, Hands: 244)
BTN: 166.63 BB (VPIP: 21.17, PFR: 17.06, 3Bet Preflop: 7.31, Hands: 651)
Hero (SB): 199 BB
BB: 199.3 BB (VPIP: 30.60, PFR: 20.90, 3Bet Preflop: 5.36, Hands: 140)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, BB calls 4 BB, UTG calls 4 BB

Flop: (15 BB, 3 players) Q 3 3
Hero bets 11.25 BB, BB calls 11.25 BB, fold

Turn: (37.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 28.13 BB, BB calls 28.13 BB

River: (93.75 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 43 BB, BB raises to 108 BB, fold

BB wins 175.26 BB

Interesting spot with the Ac blocker, ranges are weird here pre as there's a limper, but feel like V shouldn't have that many boats and shouldn't maybe even be raising other flushes than NF, maybe KJcc/KTcc.

Pretty sure betting river is good, not sure of sizing though, feel like going for the 50%PSB defines your range too much and V can just start hammering you off your capped range.


Wouldn't hate calling.

Interesting analysis. I do think most villains are pretty bad at these stakes and I don't think someone would be good enough to attack my 50%PSB but im not sure. I wanted to call but from experience it's the nuts 98% of the time however weird the line might be. One of the few hands that makes sense for me is 1010 that boated up on the turn.

What bluffs can he have there tho? for nuts only like QQ that didn't 3bet to keep fish in the pot and TT, not many. but i can't think of many hands he bluffs with and he's not raising anything worse.

Yeah TT is prettymuch the only hand that kinda makes sense, but even TT is going to 3bet with some frequency pre.

But like if V is able to read your betsizings, he could maybe even be raising J-high flushes for value.


For bluffs he can just have random spazzz, KcQx for lol_blocker, or QTs/o which actually is quite good bluff OTR tbh, but not sure how good it's to call QTo pre.

v unlikely villain calls QTo pre.

What limit it this? b/c at the micos it's a v rare villain that turns any Q into a bluff.

nl20ish

How are you tracking winrate?

I have to manually count all the hands on the hand history page in the client and then feed the number into a spreadsheet containing my 'before and after' account balance. Fortunately, there's exactly 20 hands per page in the hand history list, so the maths isn't hard, but it still means a lot of clicking, counting and scrolling needs to be done after each session.
FWIW, last week was (only) my second losing week of the year, but now I'm lacking motivation to ping it up again.

I'm sure before too long something will be made capable of scraping hand histories from Unibet's interface. It would be useful if someone like Andrew (Unibet Unibet Unibet) would tell us if this would be against the ToS if it didn't involve the use of a HUD.

Problem is I think they don't want anyone researching opponents either. I know you can change your screen names but think they don't want to put that onus on players who probably know no better.

I'd like to be able to keep score better personally, but that could just be a product of using HM for so long now I feel I need it

A 5/5 (~55hh) guy opens MP
I call JJ in SB
Flop comes A82r
He cbets 1/4th pot, i call
blank turn
He cbets 1/4th pot
Hero???

lolz

There was evidently a working HUD that apparently did this. It caused the Unibet devs to start mangling the hand histories (by inserting random spaces into screennames and not showing the dealer chat by default) to "break" the HUD, but this just made hand histories less user-friendly for honest customers. In the long run, I don't think any site can completely eradicate "software aids". Even if specific programs (HUDs, data-miners, seating scripts etc) are prohibited, users of illicit software will find technological ways to 'cloak' the dodgy apps and get a secret edge. People will always find ways to break the rules if there is money to be made.

Put you on a flush draw I guess

FWIW it seems like Stars has started tracking software again recently. Someone (not sure if they want naming) had a warning message pop up when they opened Stars with CREV open, telling them that prohibited software was running.

Downswing is now $400 and the regular speed sit and go's I play hardly run now it seems. Hard to get 9 at a time up and running.

Might need to bite the bullet and move to turbos.

annoying session

There've been a couple of programs that do this, but we change the client to stop them from working.

As for recording win rate etc, just send me a PM and I can tell you how many hands you've played at x stake over y time and z rake.

I agree that we can't stop something 100%, but we can make life much harder for them to the point that it probably isn't worth doing any more.

The hand history mangling was just a temporary thing, we have a medium term solution in now and will have a long term one soon.

We can make seating scripts impossible at least, because we don't have table selection.

Any idea why people bet this sizing on the flop? Is it just bad?
I think there is some merit to it, but on T95 it's absolutely awful imo. so I would tag him as fishreg.

Microgaming - €2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: €205.25 (VPIP: 11.63, PFR: 10.47, 3Bet Preflop: 2.33, Hands: 87)
BB: €192.83 (VPIP: 34.61, PFR: 4.03, 3Bet Preflop: 2.04, Hands: 1,070)
UTG: €158.82 (VPIP: 36.26, PFR: 6.68, 3Bet Preflop: 1.97, Hands: 1,420)
MP: €237.95 (VPIP: 29.13, PFR: 21.80, 3Bet Preflop: 9.30, Hands: 1,689)
Hero (CO): €200.00
BTN: €135.70 (VPIP: 41.06, PFR: 18.01, 3Bet Preflop: 6.27, Hands: 824)

SB posts SB €1.00, BB posts BB €2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €3.00) Hero has A 9

fold, fold, Hero raises to €5.00, fold, SB raises to €15.00, fold, Hero calls €10.00

Flop: (€32.00, 2 players) 5 T 9
SB bets €24.00, Hero calls €24.00

Turn: (€80.00, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (€80.00, 2 players) K
SB checks, Hero checks

why would you even call that 3-bet , this guy is tighter than full ring.