Fishtankz - the second graph looks like a significant leak to me. I'd have thought you should be making money when flatting SB raises in the big blind because of position.

Looks fine, remember we only have to not lose at 100bb/100 to make defending a hand correct. Also, a lot of the EV of the bb when the sb opens is going to come from the bb's 3b range.

Do you roughly agree with the %s i posted ?

I did notice that I was maybe calling too much. 3-betting is much easier option. For example, K7o, doesn't really flop well, so we would have to play very bluff heavy strategy with it. Same goes for opening SB w/ K7o.

My filters failed me, there were some 3-way hands included in the previous graph, where I could donk bet.
I think I'm doing fine with calling, but increasing the aggression is never bad when in position. My raise cbet is 14% BvB. A lot of people don't cbet light OOP, so maybe it's just fine.
Also noticing how a lot of even good players have turn cbetting leak. So float play would be something to work on.


Looking at the last chapter, yes. Except if someone is very cally, don't think you should be opening more.

I'd have thought we should be in the positive bb/100 in the BB when facing an SB open, no?

Put it this way - if the SB limps with 100%, and we check with 100%, there's 2BB in the pot with both having 100% ranges. Due to position, we can surely expect to get over 1BB back from the pot? And at the point where the action is folded to the SB, both he and the big blind have 100% ranges.

meaning you should be in the positive for the total hands where it is foldedto the sb.
When he opens however, he might do so with a 25% range or something. As you already won the 1.5bb in the other 75%, you will even be positive over the whole if you fold to his steals all the time. Youre aim is to make more of course, hence you want to not fold all the time and do better than -100bb/100 on the 25% he steals.

So does the average 100nl fr reg

Time to start playing full ring then! jeeez

Why is it so bad to fold ~50% to SB steal. Isn't it auto profit for villain only if u fold ~>35%. Also if some one is opening only 30% are u not going to lose money playing 75% of hands? Or Is calling such a wide range good bc of odds and u only have to make less than -100/100bb for auto profit?

What about in the micros where rake is high? Is i still worth play more than 50% of ur hands?

odds, position, villain has quite a wide range, high spr...

Preflop, it is rare for a hand to have more than 70% equity against another. So basically, even with a crap hand you can expect it to end up best 30% of the time.

When the SB raises to 2 or 3bb, you do get the pot odds to call if you expect to win 30% of the time.

Of course some hands are difficult to play postflop even if you do have the best hand. If you have 62 against your opponents QJs and you the board comes T9234 with 2 of his suit on the flop, there is little chance your winning hand is going to actually show down.

On the other hand, you have position and that makes every hand much easier to play and allows you to extract much more value / limit your losses.

Taking that all together, you can play a rather huge range against SB steals.

Important however is how you and the SB exploit each other. If he is for example a 16/13 nit that is on top of that afraid to play OOP and thus has the smallest range in the SB, raising you maybe 7% of the time, sure you can fold more than 50% as long as it does not lead to him widening his range and exploiting your habbit of folding. Other SBs (me) however will start out by stealing as much as 50% and will keep doing so until you start to defend properly. If both players keep adjusting to each other, they should come to some equilibrium like i tried to make in my previous post with the percentages. You should always be ready to play like that both in the SB and BB. When your enemy plays differently, then you can react by playing differently yourself.

I think what I learned from this hand is that, we may not need to defend at GTO-frequency, if certain board textures get overbluffed anyways. Because the value we get from villain bluffing too much, can make up for some tight folds we make.
Thoughts?
He had no heart to jam the river, would have been decent hand for it.

Microgaming - €2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: €203.00
UTG: €291.05
CO: €128.29
Hero (BTN): €248.00
SB: €66.00

SB posts SB €1.00, BB posts BB €2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €3.00) Hero has A J

fold, fold, Hero raises to €4.00, fold, BB raises to €15.00, Hero calls €11.00

Flop: (€31.00, 2 players) A 7 9
BB bets €19.00, Hero calls €19.00

Turn: (€69.00, 2 players) 3
BB bets €38.00, Hero calls €38.00

River: (€145.00, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero checks

you think he overbluffed there?

3 is not the best bluffing card.
9x, TT+, Ax, FD will call. I think gut-shots are forced to fold.
So what he would fold there is missed BFD, gut-shots, maybe 7x 88. Might just be enough to make a bet profitable though.

I'd probably fold 9x to a turn bet to be fair although turn barrels in 3bet pots at 10nl are almost always followed up with a river shove which I know I can't call. Might be different higher up.

what hands would you bluff there then?

Well I was wrong about him "overbluffing", since KQ is good for that. Just would like to see a 3rd barrel with that hand. Very few draws missed, dry texture, he's going to get a lot of respect. With KQ, he's got 0% vs Ax. Same would go for QJ, which would block AJ AQ. He is bluffing with 0% equity.
So in those terms, TJ has at least the gut-shot. 9x for 3rd barrel might be good also like J9s. TJ has some blockers, while 54s doesn't.
If I look at my bluff betting range, it would be: 68s, T8s, TJs, maybe 56s. 54s. I don't 3-bet all those hands given positions.

I think he could jam AQ for value there, assuming I call AJ. If he's jamming that, then it becomes interesting that vs what range could I call there with AJ? You would have to start adding bluffs to villains range, and for example this villain did not bluff jam.

I have tried to work on some spots where it's GTO to call down TP, especially in anonymous tables, in reg tables I typically have some exploitative reads.
I'm just nitty in these spots, because the times I've called river, people have had it. This hand was exception today.

Microgaming - €2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): €225.60
SB: €201.00 (VPIP: 26.58, PFR: 18.82, 3Bet Preflop: 7.47, Hands: 2,112)
BB: €293.85 (VPIP: 27.57, PFR: 21.89, 3Bet Preflop: 8.89, Hands: 756)
UTG: €97.00 (VPIP: 23.99, PFR: 20.73, 3Bet Preflop: 12.37, Hands: 2,414)
MP: €200.00 (VPIP: 26.12, PFR: 20.14, 3Bet Preflop: 6.78, Hands: 1,209)
CO: €759.53 (VPIP: 32.73, PFR: 16.36, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 56)

SB posts SB €1.00, BB posts BB €2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €3.00) Hero has Q A

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to €4.00, SB raises to €16.00, fold, Hero calls €12.00

Flop: (€34.00, 2 players) A 9 K
SB bets €20.00, Hero calls €20.00

Turn: (€74.00, 2 players) 4
SB bets €48.00, Hero calls €48.00

River: (€170.00, 2 players) 5
SB bets €117.00 and is all-in, Hero calls €117.00

i feel like not jamming the river is very bad in his spot

why do you think 9x would be a good call in your situation on the river?

I agree he should shove river with KQ (and bluff turn with gutters). OESD aren't really bluffs though, they are too strong to be considred as such IMO. I Just think 3-barreling KQ there would be standard as it is the best hand for it.

and yeah, you have to call down with AQ there I think.

Villain's only MISTAKE is not jamming river. (arguably sizing too though OTT)

I meant that betting J9s would be good for the blockers, but maybe it has enough SDV.

So I think given this analysis: overbluffing in that spot would be TT-KK. Could just try to see showdown with those hands, since there might be no value in betting.
Overbluffing would also be total spew like betting 88 45s. betting 7x might not make sense.

Some opening size on the first hand

Spot that I'm totally unsure of:
How to play bottom pair on this texture?
imo. xc -> typically leads to trouble
betting -> it's a bluff really. So many floats villain could have here. He would mainly fold hands like missed A7 A5 A2. We keep the initiative which is good, but that only helps if turn is 4x or Kx
So I think even though I don't love it, betting might be better than checking.

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 192.4 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: 175.7 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 19.57, PFR: 10.87, 3Bet Preflop: 17.39, Hands: 47)
BTN: 103.21 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 26.67, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 31)
Hero (SB): 115.7 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K 4

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 4 8 T
Hero ????,

Too weak to xc so start betting.

Right the goal for this week is to try and add better bluffs to my game. A thread a couple of weeks ago I made in micro section was talking about good 3 barrel bluffing hands, and I've got one here:

888 Poker - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 216.2 BB (VPIP: 26.19, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 90)
Hero (CO): 162.3 BB
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 41)
SB: 100.2 BB (VPIP: 19.15, PFR: 16.17, 3Bet Preflop: 3.66, Hands: 246)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 8

fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 3 players) 4 Q 8
BB checks, Hero bets 4.8 BB, fold, BB calls 4.8 BB

Turn: (16.1 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets 12 BB, BB calls 12 BB

River: (40.1 BB, 2 players) J
BB checks, Hero bets 30 BB

Here's how I saw it...

OTF, our pair of 8's multiway is going to get outdrawn a lot if it's currently the best hand. We need to bet for protection against overcards.

OTT, we turn a flush draw, and the king is a nice card for our range. Should be able to make better fold here.

OTR, we block middle set, and it's hard for him to have QQ or KK since there was no 3bet pre. JJ probably doesn't make it to the river. KQ might squeeze pre, so there can't be all that much this guy can be happy calling 3 barrels with. Just 44, Q8/K8/QJ, although we block Q8/K8. Some Kx diamond combos too I guess.

Decent enough bluff? Tried to think about the blockers OTR while making sure we still had equity OTT and OTF.