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02-13-2014 , 01:10 PM
What will the highest NL CG limit be?
02-13-2014 , 01:12 PM
NL400. We won't have liquidity at launch for anything more, but if that game gets busy we'll consider adding higher stakes.
02-14-2014 , 08:23 AM
Will I be able to do my brains on three card poker in between hands?

Will I get a bonus if yes?
02-14-2014 , 08:40 AM
Casino in Poker is still there as usual, so you should be able to find your favourite games.

Last edited by Sciolist; 02-14-2014 at 08:49 AM.
02-17-2014 , 06:48 AM
Live in ~48 hours. I was planning to post a screenshot of four tabling but left it on the wrong machine. I'll post a couple later today when we get a few people together for testing.
02-19-2014 , 07:13 AM
Has launch been delayed?
02-19-2014 , 07:20 AM
Nope. It'll be a few hours. I'll post the link when it's here.

It's a beta but I'll be interested in any feedback. We won't link it from the main MGS client today so it'll be quite quiet until we do.
02-19-2014 , 07:46 AM
Apologies if this has already been asked, but will existing rb players still receive rb or will it be scrapped altogether?
02-19-2014 , 07:50 AM
The loyalty scheme launches March 1st in the new client. The current scheme will continue on MGS until then.

The new scheme doesn't award rakeback per se - it awards some money, some tickets, some playthrough bonuses, Unibet Open packages etc once the month is over based on how much you play, so the mechanics should be fairly familiar. We're spending roughly the same amount on this as we do the current loyalty scheme, but the top end will pay out better than it currently does. The page outlining it should be live early next week so I'll have to wait til then before I can give you more details.

We also have a "next generation" loyalty scheme coming after launch that's a bit more interesting, and again it'll pay out pretty much the same as we do in the current scheme.

I can only say things like "pretty much" or "roughly the same amount" because I'm relying on my models of what's currently happening and what the new scheme will do - the current scheme is a bit weird with some payouts in Euros, some in USD, some weekly stuff and some monthly stuff. It also means that if more people reach the top end now than they currently do - which I hope they do - we'll pay out more in the new scheme than the old.

Last edited by Sciolist; 02-19-2014 at 07:56 AM.
02-19-2014 , 07:55 AM
Ok thx
02-19-2014 , 08:30 AM
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The new scheme doesn't award rakeback per se - it awards some money, some tickets, some playthrough bonuses, Unibet Open packages etc once the month is over based on how much you play, so the mechanics should be fairly familiar. We're spending roughly the same amount on this as we do the current loyalty scheme, but the top end will pay out better than it currently does.
Love the way you build a platform that caters to rec plagers, but still reward the "wrong players"
02-19-2014 , 08:42 AM
The aim isn't to ensure recreational players are the only winners. The aim is to make a level playing field and to keep recreational players alive for longer.

We don't want high volume players to have an extra advantage over the field like they currently do on most sites with huds and bum hunting and trackers and seating scripts etc.

But high volume players give you liquidity and they are where a lot of a site's money comes from. We remove a lot of the edge that external aids will give them, but we don't want to get rid of these players. A lot of people play the game with the aspiration of winning one day, but if you remove the winners you remove the motivation of a lot of your new players too.

The loyalty scheme also pays out quite a lot more to players at the lower end of the scale, particularly when you take into account the New Player Mission that introduces players to the new client (I don't take this into account when calculating how much we're paying by the way). This encourages people to keep playing when they're new to the game. We're rewarding the "right players" too.
02-19-2014 , 08:45 AM
Do you know when the app will be available?
02-19-2014 , 08:48 AM
Today we'll launch the PC desktop version. A couple of days later it'll be the browser version, then a few more days the Mac version, then the tablet. I can't give specific timelines for those at the moment I'm afraid but they'll all be quite soon.
02-19-2014 , 09:21 AM
New unibet have new mtts ?
02-19-2014 , 09:22 AM
Yes, there's a new tournament schedule.
02-19-2014 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
Yes, there's a new tournament schedule.
cool
02-19-2014 , 09:54 AM
I am actually quite looking forward to this. It wont hurt microgaming traffic and im hooked up with other micro skins on better deals than unibet ever had anyways.

The new unibet looks good and i hope they just put up a flat rate rb as they still need some regs even though its aimed at newbs.

I always think to myself there needs to be a new crypto so always hope that this could be the new one
02-19-2014 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jonlundy
The new unibet looks good and i hope they just put up a flat rate rb as they still need some regs even though its aimed at newbs.
Afraid not - there's no straight rakeback, and the loyalty reward varies by how much you play. It's quite high at the low end and quite high at the upper end, but is a bit less in the middle than currently.

I think it's quite important, as a poker site, to use your loyalty scheme to give people an incentive. By having a flat rate you aren't saying "just play a liiiiitle more", which means that at the end of the day you're doing worse than a site that does.

That's also why the loyalty scheme has quite a few levels. The cost is that it's a bit harder to explain, but the benefit is that there's always a reason to play a bit more.
02-19-2014 , 11:17 AM
we can i dl the beta?

and:

arent there licensing issues w/ no hand histories?

how can i submit information for tax payments f.e.?

how can i be sure that theres no collusion? how can i double check w/o any information about the hands i have played?

Last edited by eule; 02-19-2014 at 11:22 AM.
02-19-2014 , 11:19 AM
The word is that the release version will be out here in about an hour. Then we need to put it on the servers and so forth which I expect will take some time too.
02-19-2014 , 11:38 AM
Do you know if the new software will be tracked by PokerScout?
02-19-2014 , 11:42 AM
It won't. We aren't providing a feed and we don't list on the client how many players are online. It's one of those things that every site has but I don't really know why. It doesn't really help us for everyone to be able to track us like that.
02-19-2014 , 11:49 AM
Aha, questions added by edit that I didn't see first time round.

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Originally Posted by eule
arent there licensing issues w/ no hand histories?
We don't think so, no.

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Originally Posted by eule
how can i submit information for tax payments f.e.?
Not really my area of expertise so I'm a bit vague on how this works. I am under the impression that in the Netherlands, for example, all you need is for the site to demonstrate net winnings. I believe that this is what we've been told from a licensing perspective.

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Originally Posted by eule
how can i be sure that theres no collusion? how can i double check w/o any information about the hands i have played?
I talked about this a bit before in the thread (here and here).

The short version is that I think it's important for players to be able to look through hand histories to demonstrate collusion when the site isn't doing their job and looking for it themselves. I think that the vast majority of sites fall into that category, at least a little bit.

We aren't going to fall into that category though, and we're going to be proactive about finding colluders. If any player suspects their opponents were up to something, they can send us the time and day that it happened and we can figure it out from there - we don't need the hand histories from the player.
02-19-2014 , 12:21 PM
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I feel for you, and as a player in Microgaming I'm very worried, too. Although network seems to have their own problems, most problems usually seem to include incompetent and arrogant skin called Unibet. Good that Unibet is leaving the network, maybe their trashy site takes some of these scumbags with them.

Got ripped by Unibet big time last December, and they promised to make full investigation about it. It never carried out and they claimed that everything is fine and so on even though they got caught with their pants down. I hope to get some of this in NVG soon, but need to write it all down and ask help from friends to translate it to good English.

I am already boycotting Unibet, and hope that all sensible poker players will do the same.
Funny didnt see you posting there? Tell us what will change?

      
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