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06-28-2015 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
This is surprising. Who could have predicted that a corporation whose business model revolves around people of questionable character making questionable decisions would so easily back down from lifetime bans?
Especially once the infraction (underage) is moot.

But bans for things that might hurt the casino (cheating, fighting, abusive behavior, self-exclusions) are another story.
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06-28-2015 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Guito
I know that bad beat story is kind of a derail... But do rooms pay BBJs in chips? I've seen lots of other promotions with chips, but never a BBJ.
It depends on the room's procedure. I've been paid for a table share in chips. I've had cash brought out. I've had to go to the cage one by one to receive our payouts in cash.
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06-28-2015 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by natedawg3488
Just dont get a players card made or register for a tourney... Never give your id for anything
Good job reading the story.
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06-29-2015 , 10:16 AM
First of all, don't be an idiot. Do not go to the casino if your ban is still in place. You will be in really deep **** if you get caught on property and you will definitely be banned for life, probably after going to jail and getting fined.

Next, if you do for some reason really want to get back into this casino, contact security and get on their case about finding the right person to talk/write to in order to be considered for reinstatement. If you write a letter, write professionally, respectfully, and correctly. Explain your situation and hope for the best. If they don't let you in then forget about that casino. There are other casinos in existence.
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06-29-2015 , 01:20 PM
I am picturing you standing on at the promotions booth for a new players card when the lady comes back and says "I'm sorry for the delay, I will have that card in just a few minutes".

Then you get tapped on the shoulder from a big guy in a suite along with two uniformed security guards on each side and they ask you to please come with them. Then you get arrested for trespassing.

Is it really worth it? If it's not, read this post very slowly:

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Originally Posted by callipygian
I mean honestly it kind of sounds like you aren't really mature enough.

When you are, pick up the phone and call security. Be courteous and contrite. Trust me, every adult has done stupid **** when they were younger and they'll decide to lift your ban depending on what they see in you at the time you call (and probably an in person interview) rather than what's on your file.
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06-29-2015 , 01:32 PM
Bans are rarely 'for life' .. and they certainly wouldn't apply to other casinos unless they were 'related' properties .. like all Harrah's or something like that.

They are generally very nice on the phone and the worse you could do is be (re) escorted off the property for trespassing if you showed up in person if you approach them to remove the ban. If you're playing ... different story ..

Although you were probably fine at Casino 'other', the fact that you consider it sneaking is a pretty bad sign ... do something that 'should' reflect your age.

I think only one casino in Michigan allows for 18 year-olds. And guess what kind of town it's in ... a college town. GL
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06-29-2015 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by answer20
the worse you could do is be (re) escorted off the property for trespassing if you showed up in person
This is not the worst that can happen and is very dangerous to say to someone who might have been trespassed.
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06-29-2015 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by albedoa
This is not the worst that can happen and is very dangerous to say to someone who might have been trespassed.
Note my edit .. or at least include my whole sentence.

We have a casino near us and have talked with many a player who 'got banned' or 'self banned' and were right back in there after a period of time. They simply went and discussed 'with staff' and the matter was reversed.

I even know a guy who can't play table games .. basically anywhere .. and they still allow him into casinos for slot and live poker play.

Obviously if you are an 'ass' to them, then they can be an even bigger one back to you. Talk to them, don't go play and beg for forgiveness when caught. GL
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06-29-2015 , 03:15 PM
I cannot agree with you. It makes zero sense to show up and potentially commit a crime when you can simply call or email and ask what the procedure is.

I don't doubt there are casinos that won't have you arrested, but that's not how we define "worst case".
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06-30-2015 , 08:02 AM
I coulda swore I read this somewhere before a while back
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06-30-2015 , 11:18 AM
I saw just wear a hat & a pair of these & you'll be ok....

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06-30-2015 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianNit
It depends on the room's procedure. I've been paid for a table share in chips. I've had cash brought out. I've had to go to the cage one by one to receive our payouts in cash.
How many BBJ's have you been a part of???
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06-30-2015 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by *Ocho 1*
I saw just wear a hat & a pair of these & you'll be ok....

Gold hahahahaha
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06-30-2015 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by StepBangin
How many BBJ's have you been a part of???

Three....never the winning/losing hand, though.
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06-30-2015 , 10:30 PM
And did you call them?
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07-01-2015 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by OneCrazyDuck
Sounds legit. Who doesn't have a dozen stories about hitting BBJs at casinos before they hit puberty?
^^this.
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07-01-2015 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
This is surprising. Who could have predicted that a corporation whose business model revolves around people of questionable character making questionable decisions would so easily back down from lifetime bans?
yes. this ^^.

i'm pretty sure the casino will salivate over getting another degenerate gambler. especially one who firmly established their addiction at a young age. they probably have your parking spot already reserved and plated.
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07-01-2015 , 03:34 PM
Eff all that growing up crap! Just go in there! I'm guessing you didn't provide an id as you managed to give a fake address. If they collar you (which I imagine is highly unlikely) just deny it all! There is no way they will be able to prove its you! If you go in there asking and they say no you will have to lay low for another 5 effing years!!
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07-01-2015 , 03:50 PM
I think the definition a lot of posters use of "growing up" is way off! For me "growing up" (I'm fast approaching 40) is more to do with not hurting individuals and treating everyone with respect,kindliness and compassion and zero to do with following corporate laws and a like! They are screwy bastards, I see the game and you know what I say? **** em!!!

So like I said before go right on in and anything is said tell them it wasn't you over and over till they are sick of it!!
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07-01-2015 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Benat

For me "growing up" (I'm fast approaching 40) is more to do with not hurting individuals and treating everyone with respect,kindliness and compassion and zero to do with following corporate laws and a like!
So you don't care if George from Security, Bill the Floorman, Amy the waitress and Veronica the dealer all get fined by Gaming or fired by the Casino for letting an underage or barred player gamble.

And yes, it does happen.
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07-01-2015 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
So you don't care if George from Security, Bill the Floorman, Amy the waitress and Veronica the dealer all get fined by Gaming or fired by the Casino for letting an underage or barred player gamble.

And yes, it does happen.
Well yes I do care! But how in the hell are they ever gonna prove its him?!?
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07-01-2015 , 04:27 PM
Plus if I'm George from security or whoever else and they try and fire me based on this one kid from 5 years ago then I'm suing!

It's not reasonable that anyone should remember his face which given his age has probably changed significantly! There is just no way they should try to be firing people here!!
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07-01-2015 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Benat
I think the definition a lot of posters use of "growing up" is way off! For me "growing up" (I'm fast approaching 40) is more to do with not hurting individuals and treating everyone with respect,kindliness and compassion and zero to do with following corporate laws and a like! They are screwy bastards, I see the game and you know what I say? **** em!!!

So like I said before go right on in and anything is said tell them it wasn't you over and over till they are sick of it!!
It's not corporate law, it's criminal law. You can be arrested for trespassing which means jail/fines and legal fees. It also potentially means a young person with a criminal record.

All for no reason at all, because almost certainly he would be welcomed back if he just asked.

The risk/reward equation is really clear.

I just finished jury duty, and we saw trespassing cases at bars/restaurants and private residences.
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07-01-2015 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by au4all
It's not corporate law, it's criminal law. You can be arrested for trespassing which means jail/fines and legal fees. It also potentially means a young person with a criminal record.

All for no reason at all, because almost certainly he would be welcomed back if he just asked.

The risk/reward equation is really clear.

I just finished jury duty, and we saw trespassing cases at bars/restaurants and private residences.
Wow! How many cases did you sit in?!?!? They are putting people through a trail with a jury over revisiting restaurants they are banned from?!? There must have been some pretty extenuated circumstances there I would suggest!!

We are talking about some kid that was banned 5 years ago for what is essentially about the most harmless crime an individual can commit where they are gonna have an awful time trying to prove it was even him (so long as he doesn't admit it). Even if it did get to the point of giving him a criminal record (which I suggest is a really really remote possibility) it's not like he's really done anything! You think he's gonna have a hard time getting jobs or entering foreign countries with a trespassing record?

You think he's going to jail here?!? Maybe a night or two at the absolute worst. But anyway in the real world all that's gonna happen when he gets in there is absolutely nothing!!
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07-01-2015 , 05:47 PM
^^^I don't think you live in the 'real world' very much. The 'real world' is going to jail for trespassing. Fantasy land is thinking nothing will ever happen to you. I assume you are not aware that people have been banned from casino's because of their name alone. They do not have to 'prove' he was the kid that got life banned a few years ago. All they have to do is suspect he is the same person and ban him again under the current name, address, etc. They can ban you for ANY reason at all and not even have to tell you why they banned you.
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