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06-28-2015 , 07:27 AM
long story short i got 86d from a casino a few years ago for hitting a jackpot underage

im finally of age and i havnt stepped foot in there since the ban


when i got banned i gave them my real name fake address
and they took my photo and i signed some paperwork


My name is pretty common so im wondering

would i be better off just going back with glasses and a hat and getting a players card


or will they catch me?


all they have is a photo of me from like 5 years ago and my name

i want to be able to go back there and play
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06-28-2015 , 07:36 AM
I think if they catch you, there are going to be more serious issues this time. It's probably time, as a more mature adult, to make an appointment to speak to someone there in person.
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06-28-2015 , 08:20 AM
Just talk to someone and provide them the real information. It's better to admit than get caught and most people are going to much more forgiving after that, especially when they can get a new customer.
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06-28-2015 , 11:08 AM
If you want to go back there and play, and you're finally of legal age...then why not just act like a mature adult and call to schedule an appointment to find if the ban has been lifted, opposed to, trying to be sneaky all over again and getting that hammer hit on your head all over again...

But you do what you want, of course. I did hear Ray Bans are on sale.
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06-28-2015 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bingbangblaow
just going back with glasses and a hat and getting a players card
Definitely this.

Please post TR and pics of your disguise here.
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06-28-2015 , 11:51 AM
Why didn't you mention that you already went back ... when you were still underage?
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06-28-2015 , 11:53 AM
They'll catch you, probably sooner rather than later. Schedule an appointment to see if your ban can be lifted.
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06-28-2015 , 12:00 PM
sorry if i didn't make it clear

i got banned for life so i never stepped back in that casino

i was wondering if there were any casino employees or something

i can't step on the property so how do i speak with someone about my case
( i heard for bans the only way to get unbanned is if a casino employee vouches for you and schedules a hearing and since its been years i lost contact with all the regular employees i knew)

i would like to go back and since theres a chance my ban could not get lifted
i was wondering if the better option would be just to blend in and not draw attention to myself

all they really have is my name (which is very common ex: john smith)
and an old picture of me prepuberty

would my name be auto flagged or something
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06-28-2015 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bingbangblaow
sorry if i didn't make it clear

i got banned for life so i never stepped back in that casino

i was wondering if there were any casino employees or something

i can't step on the property so how do i speak with someone about my case
( i heard for bans the only way to get unbanned is if a casino employee vouches for you and schedules a hearing and since its been years i lost contact with all the regular employees i knew)

i would like to go back and since theres a chance my ban could not get lifted
i was wondering if the better option would be just to blend in and not draw attention to myself

all they really have is my name (which is very common ex: john smith)
and an old picture of me prepuberty

would my name be auto flagged or something


You probably don;t need anyone to vouch for you, you probably don;t need a hearing. If you are of age now they are probably quite happy to lift the ban.

Pickup the phone, call the casino. Ask to speak to the casino manager, or the security supervisor. They will direct you as to who you need to speak to. Give them your "new address".
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06-28-2015 , 12:14 PM
this casino is very large and to be banned you have to commit some heinous atrocity so they don't really unban people willy nilly it requires a hearing i know that for a fact

it has been a long time since i went there so i just didn't want to risk drawing attention to myself if can get away with just blending in and being a cog in the machine and in the off chance i do hit another jackpot argue that the banned person is somebody different as they don't have my social or address

also at the time of ban i got a case # but i lost it
will that have any effect on the situation or will they be able to find my case through my name?
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06-28-2015 , 12:24 PM
5 years is a long time. Just go back and play. If they say anything be cooperative and ask what the process is to be reconsidered.
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06-28-2015 , 12:24 PM
You posted a question. 100% of the serious replies give the same, obvious advice, over and over.

Why ask the question, if you don't want to accept the only sensible answer?
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06-28-2015 , 12:25 PM
I mean honestly it kind of sounds like you aren't really mature enough.

When you are, pick up the phone and call security. Be courteous and contrite. Trust me, every adult has done stupid **** when they were younger and they'll decide to lift your ban depending on what they see in you at the time you call (and probably an in person interview) rather than what's on your file.
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06-28-2015 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bingbangblaow
sorry if i didn't make it clear

i got banned for life so i never stepped back in that casino
Sorry. Misread your other post. But still, you were banned from Casino X for being underage but then snuck into Casino Y to play.

Now that you are of legal age but still banned at Casino X, you want to sneak in instead of clearing the matter up like an adult.

I sense a pattern.
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06-28-2015 , 12:56 PM
i guess i just fear the bad beat of getting denied

and now having heat drawn on me like a cold case with a new lead

as i would really like to go back there

I'm hearing what i didn't want to hear but i guess its the right move

im ganna call them and arrange a meeting or whatever process to get reinstated

will update on the results
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06-28-2015 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
5 years is a long time. Just go back and play. If they say anything be cooperative and ask what the process is to be reconsidered.
To be banned often means to be trespassed. Do not go back to the property with the intent of apologizing if you get caught. You might be apologizing in handcuffs.

Just pick up the damn phone.
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06-28-2015 , 02:17 PM
Op what casino is it?
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06-28-2015 , 03:09 PM
I can already picture the next thread where you tell us about them finding out about your ban because you hit another jackpot..

Or you do the right thing this time and call them.
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06-28-2015 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bingbangblaow
i guess i just fear the bad beat of getting denied
...

LOL
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06-28-2015 , 03:32 PM
Think of it as free-rolling. Instead of defying the ban and sneaking in, you can call and ask about the possibility that someone in your situation can get the ban lifted (and I have known players who have been banned and got back in after waiting and apologizing) and if they say no you can still try to sneak in. You don't even have to give your name. You can just ask if it is an avenue worth pursuing.

OP doesn't seem to be a do the right thing kind of guy given this story:

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Originally Posted by bingbangblaow
That jackpot experience taught me a lot and prepared me for what happens if i hit it again which brings me to part 2.

about a year later ive degenned away a lot of my roll to ultimate texas hold em took a break from poker my friend hits me up to go play cards at the casino ( i did get a newer fake id which was less ****ty but still **** ) i tell him i dont want to go but he insists and even says he is willing to spot me so i take him up on it. My friend hasnt played in a while and is so hyped to play and tells me in the parking lot what if we hit a JP tonight and for some odd reason at that moment i felt a chill up my spine almost as if it was foreshadowing it was going to happen. We get to the poker room and ask for 2 seats at the same table and get seated immediately. I wait till its my turn to post big blind before getting dealt in and what do you know pocket rockets on my big blind the first hand of the game. The button for some reason comes over the top preflop after everybody limps so i just shove and he snapcalls and tables pocket jacks like he got the nuts. I show my aces to my buddy sitting to my left and tell him knowing my luck im beat here. Flop comes A27 rainbow and im feeling super good now knowing he cant beat my set and he realizes it too as hes getting ready to muck his hand the dealer turns over a Jack the whole table became silent and the dealer paused everybody says in unison what do we need ? a JACK baby and the dealer rivers the ****ing Jack of course i flop a set with pocket aces and lose to runner runner quads like my previous jackpot the whole table is celebrating fist pumping jumping yelling like maniacs ... i turn to look at my friend and we both look at each other like we saw a ghost (in my head im thinking oh boy how do i get out of this one) apparantly the whole table picked up on it too asked whats wrong why arent i happy i got the low end i should be celebrating ( thinking quickly i just tell em it must be cause im in shock i never hit a jackpot before i tell the table i needa go to the bathroom so me and my friend are in the bathroom panicking thinking what can we do i know i cant give em my fake id again and i figure the only way out of this is by getting someone we know to give me their real id and social so we start calling everybody we know that even slightly resembles me at like 2 am i finally get someone to pick up and willing to do it for a cut of the jackpot ( the guy looks nothing like me and it says hes like 6'4 on his id im like 5'10 lol but hey ill take it anything is better than nothing)

i tell the floor i left my id at home and my brother is on the way to drop it off he tells me ok cool and asks me to fill out the paperwork in the meantime i just tell him could i wait till he gets here as im still in shock from hitting the jackpot and want a few moments for a breather he obliges... 30 mins later my friend gets here and i meet him across the street and get the id and info go back to the casino and turn in my id and fill out the paperwork

at this point the whole table is just talking about the jackpot and just hanging out ( i never knew jackpots take so long to be paid out took about a good 2 hours to be paid out)

after a while i get a tap on the shoulder from the floor guy and he asks me and the other guy from the hand to come with him we get taken to a secret employee room and im getting flashbacks from the first time and thinking guess the jig is up this is so embarrassing... im sitting down next to the guy who cracked me in some blank office and this old white guy comes out of nowhere and congratulates us and brings out a rack of big chips i cash out my chips and GTFO there asap

the jackpot wasnt a large sum but it was pretty big to me at the time low 5 figures i proceeded to blow it all living lavishly for a while like a dumb degen

i still cant believe to this day i pulled it off

after that i got a lot of anxiety going to the casino underage

i have many more "degen" stories involving a lot of debt and the mafia but thats for another day
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06-28-2015 , 04:59 PM
Sounds legit. Who doesn't have a dozen stories about hitting BBJs at casinos before they hit puberty?
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06-28-2015 , 05:09 PM
I know that bad beat story is kind of a derail... But do rooms pay BBJs in chips? I've seen lots of other promotions with chips, but never a BBJ.
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06-28-2015 , 05:13 PM
I got banned from commerce for life when I hit a jackpot underage... When I turned 21 I just called them to get the ban removed and they re-instated me. It took like 5 minutes.
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06-28-2015 , 06:23 PM
Just dont get a players card made or register for a tourney... Never give your id for anything
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06-28-2015 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LoLuMaD
I got banned from commerce for life when I hit a jackpot underage... When I turned 21 I just called them to get the ban removed and they re-instated me. It took like 5 minutes.
This is surprising. Who could have predicted that a corporation whose business model revolves around people of questionable character making questionable decisions would so easily back down from lifetime bans?
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