Are that many poker tables really sitting empty in San Jose? Everyone on here talks about long waiting lists most of the time.

I agree that poker demand is mostly inelastic to price, so I'm not claiming rakes would go down. I just don't think they necessarily would go up. Don't understand what you are saying about the "bare minimum".

I am basically assuming that management is already charging poker players the maximum that can be sustained without an immediate decrease in business, so it would be unlikely to be increased further based on a decrease in their revenue from other sources.

Actually I think even the current rake is high enough that it is causing a decrease in their business in the long term, but the owners are so short-sighted that they don't realize it is happening, or don't care.

That's because most people play when everyone wants to play. So the average wait time for an individual is drastically different from the median wait time for a game.

Never mind

I do have a bachelor's degree in Economics, but I admit my knowledge is mostly academic and I don't have any real business world experience, especially regarding corrupt semi-regulated partial monopolies.

I just hate seeing the total subversion of the intent behind the California gaming laws and optimistically hope that if thay business were cleaned up, things could be better for poker players, or at least not worse.

Aside from the fact that the CA games pay more than their fair share of rent, the poker and CA games sides operate more or less independently.

The entanglements may come from casinos having stakes in corporations. It's at least regulated if not illegal. In cases where you have family ownership or otherwise obvious owners, this is fairly standard to police. In the case where you have a company with stockholders, it's not as obvious.

M8trix is by far the most corporate of the SFBA casinos. I agree that rooting out corruption helps everyone, but I think it gets very messy with modern corporate structures.

The DROP (it's not a rake, which is illegal) is $5, which is in line with CAZ and what many Vegas rooms were charging as a max until some rooms lowered it to $4. It's cheaper than Commerce ($6). So, it would be nice if it was still $4 but it's reasonable in comparison to Western rooms.

Not sure about the poker players, but certainly the CA game players. TBH I'm very surprised the city of San Jose has not brought the banhammer on the Corporation considering how active it's been in protecting the public lately. Like banning more than 20 straight hours in a cardroom without an 8 hour break.

I have played in CA a lot and know how the house takes the money. I consider "rake" to be a generic term meaning the money the house takes, not the method of collection.

However, it is effectively higher than the place in Vegas that take up to $5 gradually, and I do think it is high enough that it is hurting the sustainability of the games in the long run.
Yeah, it could be worse though. And at least they don't take another dollar or two for promotions, I guess San Jose doesn't allow that.

Does anyone know what the rake is on the 160 and 300 tournies @ M8trix

Does anyone from management read this thread? I have some complaints about the dealers. I can post them here, or PM someone, or leave a note next time I'm there.

I'd like to know the same thing. I'm not local, but my company is headquartered in California and so I play here a couple of nights once every 2 or 3 months. The service employees are mostly very good, and I hate to see their reputation damaged by a couple of bad outliers.

May I have a quick rundown of the blind structure and min/max buy in for no limit hold em?

1/2/3 300 max
2/3/5 500 max

There are occasional 5/T and 10/25 but I'm guessing if you don't already know the buyins you don't need to know.

Have any of you Casino Matrix regulars been getting bug bites while there. Lately I have been noticing flea-like bites after I visit. Is it just me? I love this place and would like to let management know if there is an issue.

Fortunately I haven't run into this issue yet.

will 10/25+ go during bay 101 tournament?

I think they've been posting about a 25/50 or 50/100 can't quite remember the details.

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Hey all,

A few questions, never been to M8trix.

Does the 5/10 NL run most weekends? (any notes on typical schedule would be appreciated)

Is the 5/10 NL $1000 cap?

Do they accept call-ins to get on the waiting lists?

Cheers

The floor man told me 5/10 is supposed to run MWF. $1000 might be the minimum but definitely not the cap. If there is a cap it's probably closer to 3k+

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They accept callins after 4:00 p.m. For bigger games, maybe sooner, but I'm not sure.

Ty

In general, San Jose is not a poker-on-weekends kind of town. People want to be with their families on weekends and San Jose is not the kind of place people drive to on weekends. They drive there for work so the people play after work or during "work".

Quick question for Nor Cal players. Bay 101 or M8trix for 2/5 NL on the weekend? Have never been to either.

Any insights would be appreciated. Thank you.

what factors are important for you? the one clear cut difference i can mention is that ever since bay increased rake by a buck, matrix has had consistently longer wait lists. if you're asking about how good the games are, i would guess bay, since rake is higher, but i haven't played at the matrix enough to be able to say authoritatively. although they share the same player pool, some players are bay only or matrix only, and though it's hard to put into words, the "standard" play styles seem to differ somewhat.

short waiting list will be the most important factor, don't really care about the rake since i'll only be there for the weekend. i'd also prefer a 9-handed table, although it seemed like 10 handed tables are the standard in the bay area for some odd reason.

i just looked them up on the google map. are they really that close to one another?

thanks for your reply.

Does "weekend" include Friday night for you? If so, a short wait is unlikely. Also, there's no 2/5, it's 2/3/5 with 3 blinds. There is also a deep stack variety, which is where you'll find plenty of action. Most of the big action players are at M8trix deep games, but Bay has plenty too.