U really think a random fish is limp rr 64o+ and Qxs+? No way u can assign that range to random fish who limp/rr you. U have to go on population based reads. Just bc after 8 hands He shows down a couple bad hands doesn't mean u can assign him that wide a range.

And if his range is indeed that wide u would have no reason to post this HH bc it would be an easy/fist pump jam OTF jam OTF.

Population based reads unless u have "history"

This type of villain yes. This is Bovada we're talking about. I didn't post this hand for discussion, just lamenting how bad I ran.

O ok. I thought u were posting for discussion. GL tonight

I was commenting on the comments left for me regarding the hand. I did ask if it was +EV to fold the hand after the flop, it's pretty close based SPR, but having thought about it, it's probably +EV to check/fold and try to see a cheap turn.

No need to wonder. Poker stove it so you know the correct play

Start: 3932.83
End: 3792.77
Loss: (140.06)

Sigh, I run so bad in 3 bet pots. QQ <<< 99 9 high flop :-\...like how can I ever get away from that kind of flop once it's 3 bet? I play a pretty tight style but lately, it seems like I've been whiffing so many flops and just getting really bad board runouts and just getting coolered a lot. Maybe I should switch to a different game. It's getting harder to find juicy tables right now.

Go through your HH. When we are running bad it's a good time to plug leaks. After every downswing we should emerge a better player.

+100000

Start: 3792.77
End: 3965.08
Profit: 172.31

Damn I need better tilt control, don't think my wall can take anymore things thrown at it. Anyways, session started off very poorly, I was making terrible call down and running so bad as everyone seemed to hit their draws against me. Then I buckled down got value with premiums and got stacked by the fishes going for draws or trying to bluff me off. I wish I can steady my play, and play my A game the entire session and not let tilt or a bad beat get the best of me.

Tilt will be your only downfall.....

Start: 3965.08
End: 3657.73
Loss: -307.35

Wow, do I run bad. Lost with Aces thrice, short stacking idiots who flop 3 of a kind easy game. Ran AK into KK, Lost with QQ vs AK with Q high flop monotone flop. Sigh. I might be quitting soon if this continues, I just can't keep taking these swings and the fact these ****** idiots run so good against me.

Keep your head up. But if u can't take swings quit bro. There will always be swings in poker. Its a fundamental part if game. So is going through rough stretches.

Some times u have to make good folds or pot control. But if u are not reviewing your HH looking for leaks u have no reason to complain. Even wen we run bad there are still spots we can save $$

Instead of always complaining how bad u run, man up and study. Take responsibility. Ask any good poker player, it's not all variance. You are making mistakes AND running bad. Time to hit that HH and find out where you can improve

U can't control variance, just your decisions

Edit: only reason I care is bc I used to lurk yours and a couple other threads b4 I played on Bovada. You can beat these games but u have entitlement issues. Just bc u flop TP v a 40BB player doesn't mean it has to go all in.

Also u don't listen to advice really. U ask a question, ppl give u answer and u still argue when everyone says you are wrong

I can almost guarantee u are overplaying hands. Also the fact u freak anytime u don't win means u have entitlement issues. Just bc u have AK pre flop doesn't mean u will win. Just bc u have TP don't mean u can click bet for 3 streets. Just bc u have AA doesn't mean u can bet 3 streets. Yes u may have to pot control or actually fold them due to board texture. Can u honestly say u do this or are u just bet,bet,bet bc "I have AA and he is a fish".

STUDY AND STOP BEING ENTITLED.

GL sir

Maybe you're right, but it's absolutely ridiculous the type of hands I get beat with, OOP from the blinds too. It's like complete set up hands. ie. Flop top pair vs. calling station fish that likes to play any 2 suited and the flop is J99 with 2 hearts. They can literally have anything there and top pair beats that range, but of course they have trips.

Yea I feel u. Sometimes we need to be pot controlling, even when we are currently ahead. U can't keep going broke with one pair hands. That's what fish do. U just have to know when it's time to pump money in and when u are just trying to get a smallish pot to SD with your TP.

a lot of this comes from studying your HH, and recognizing trends. U will just get a feeling, but it comes bc u have seen this spot with this type of villain so many times.

GL bro. But if u wanna complain n blame variance it's on u. EVERY player has been there. We all had the most ridiculous beats, etc. Some use it as a crutch, others use it as motivation to find leaks. Will u be a victim or are u gonna be proactive?

Try to remember where you came from. You were playing 10nl looking at 25nl when this thread started a year ago, now you're playing 100nl looking at 200nl once your luck turns. A bad month is a bad month, it happens to everyone, every year. You can't change the outcome, you can only change your response to the outcome. If it makes you want to quit, that's fine, maybe that's the right move. But it seems to me that you're just frustrated. You've clearly got the ability to beat the game, and once your luck turns bam, money.

edit - Also, for the record, a good redline is not at all a requirement to have a high winrate. Just cause things are going poorly right now, doesn't mean you need to change a thing.

Great post.

GL stuntman.

Thanks guys, just the last 2 weeks have been very frustrating. The variance has been really frustrating for me. I play really tight, so it's very frustrating that when I do get a hand and lose and constantly lose, it's a very frustrating feeling.

Hey man we are only hard on you bc we think u can make it. If u can get past the variance and just look at it as equity.

Even if u are 95% OTF u still lose 5/100. Each of those times u will feel cheated, but it HAS to happen. I'm not perfect, but just letting go and believing in the long-term process has helped me so much. There will be multiple times it seems u can't win or u wonder if you were even good enough to beat the game. U.have to have faith in the process. The only way to to that is review HH so u KNOW you are making the best plays.

If u can control tilt and work on letting go of variance as much as possible u will be at 200nl+. Go back through your thread. Where were u a month ago? 2 months ago? Don't let it kill your spirit. Let it motivate u

Also u have to remember on Bovada our volume is limited. Online you are guaranteed multiple 5k breakeven or losing stretches. That is standard. So think how long it takes to get 5k hands. That should help you appreciate variance more.

Also look at long-term winning players graphs. They seem to go straight up, But if u zoom in you will see multiple 5k+ stretches of losing or breakeven play. Its just that volume and making fundamentally solid decisions will rule in the long term.

GL man

Great point. yea it feels like forever lol.

Start: 3657.73
End: 3341.37
Loss: (316.36)

Sigh, another idiot hits a set on me on a 3 bet pot. Also, if I didn't make 250 bucks worth of tilt calls, I would've been fine. Maybe I should really take a break. I'm getting super angry from poker and just yea, just sick of the idiots outflopping me.

Start: 3366.37
End: 3416.75
Profit: 50.38

So I took the day off yesterday and studied. Didn't help too much as I get outflopped with premiums ie. QQ-TT, AK, you know the usual. Just gotta stay patient. I would've won more if I hit a nut flush plus gutter vs 2 pair and top pair on the flop for 300 bb pot. I obv whiffed, but my equity was good there to gii on flop.

Start: 3416.75
End: 3410.01
Loss: -6.74

Sigh, really, another night of getting outflopped by ace rag, I play bad I lose half a buy in, they play bad they get bailed out by nice turn and rivers. For example 4 handed 87cc on the bb, btn min raises I obv call; flop is A87dd. I check, btn bets out half pot, I raise to like 11x. Btn tank calls. Turn is a Q. I bet out 17 to a 24 dollar pot, btn calls. River pairs the ****ing Ace, so I get my two pair counterfeited. I obviously have to check as Btn has an ace most of the time. Btn checks back and shows Q6dd to win the ****ing pot. MBFN to get bailed out like that.

Hehe. That was me Fun hand. A few details were different but nevertheless just because someone sucks out does not make them a bad player. I've been in your shoes and been just as frustrated with the game as you are right now. You played the hand well, but other than me not betting the river my play was fine too. I had a bad night (and been having troubles like you for the last three weeks). Focus on your decisions and not the results. Maybe 3 betting would have been better since I'm sure my stats were very TAG looking but you played the hand well. Just know overtime that means you will get the $$$ from me more often in those spots. Good luck to you and I'll keep following. I'm a grizzled veteran now but I was once in the exact spot you are. If you don't love the game, only the money it can potentially bring you, poker probably isn't best for you is my only advice. Take care

Good point, I didn't have too many hands on you, so I couldn't determine if you were a solid player or not, though that min raise on the button could mean anything from a player type stand point. I did think about 3 betting, but felt you weren't going to fold a big part of your range and I'll be in a tricky spot OOP most of the time. I love poker, but sometimes I hate it, like a lot of things in life. Good luck.