Is there a quick and dirty estimate for how much rake we pay? Say I've played 500 hrs of CA Cardroom poker $5 drop, $1 if no flop?

3 pots an hour, ish.

These are pretty standard hands. I know you're used to calling down with one or two big bets, but that's what makes SL/NL hard - you have to make a judgement on whether the other guy is bluffing or not. And it's hard to make the nuts. Most of the time a 3-flush or 3-straight board is not a flush or straight for anyone.

Here's an updated version of my spreadsheet, modified to include a Risk of Ruin calculation:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

He was in the middle of dealing w/ an aneurysm as he left the table.

I can understand calling w/ TPTK if you think the bet's a bluff but is there any reason to go AI?

No, first guy made a rage bet. Second guy made a stupid bet. imo.

Thanks for putting that together. It's pretty interesting tweaking different assumptions to see the RoR percentages.

Next step: add input for average hours per month and average money withdrawn per month to calculate RoR for those who are taking living expenses out of their bankrolls?

This is what I was trying to get the OP's to do in the two BRM threads -- playing with the numbers really helps. Get a feel for how deadly lost WR is. Think about how much uncertainty in WR matters for choosing a BR, so if you have won 1.5BB/HR over 300 hours you think one roll is sufficient. Everyone tells you that nobody beats this game (including people way better than you) for more than 0.8BB/HR. Big BR change.
The first approximation would be to reduce your WR by your withdrawals -- so if you take $5k/month out and play 150 hours, you're taking out a little over 0.8BB/HR from your 20/40 win rate. You go from a 1BB/HR winner to like 0.17BB/HR effective winnings. Remember, traditional BRM is an observation that you'll get to infinite bankroll before you lose everything you made so far, and your path to infinity $ is slowed by paying rent.

Leader looked into BRM when you withdraw in SSSH. It is the next step when you get beyond infinite series math and think about taking a living wage out of your roll. I hope the pictures are still there and I have some browser setting blocking them.

I'm thinking about my favorite psych up songs. Motley Crue's "Kickstart My Heart" vs Van Halen's "Hot for Teacher"? They are both quite fast and get me going in an instant. However, I think Motley Crue wins that battle. Of course, AC/DC's "Thunderstruck" takes the cake over both.

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I have a free 24:1 shot at hitting $1k today. Sweet. That's like 40 bucks of free ev. Plus, I got a free tshirt out of the deal.

Shove guy prob thinks he has the best hand. Shove looks like a bluff to the other guy, whom shove guy hopes will call with KJ or worse.

OK, but I think that I'm going to forget all of the fancy stuff when I play that game and pretty much stick to nut peddling. After all, the blinds are only $5/orbit and ppl pay off. OTOH, it's terribly boring.

Ppl pay off probably because other pppl bluff a lot.

Yes it's boring most of the time. Stack someone or get stacked and it gets interesting for a bit. But if it's anything like Bay 101, the LHE people are a lot more interesting than the NL people. I'd play 8/16 a lot more if I were rolled for it.

At the risk of content, these aren't "standard" in the sense that everyone involved played them even remotely well.

1/2 NL is a lot less boring, and a lot more profitable, if you bet thinner than nut peddling.

They played extremely well by local standards.

1. Play any two cards for a small raise, hoping to hit your miracle flop.

2. If you flop absolutely nothing, put in more money by bluffing.

3. If you flop anything short of the nuts, call down because of (2).

4. If you flop the nuts, put in as little as possible until the river, then jam and

4a. Cry like a baby if someone sucked out on you.

4b. Show your hand if nobody calls.

4c. Roll your winner and berate the loser if someone called.

And by local standards I mean if they only call 50% of their hands in step (1) they're considered good and if they skip step (2) they probably beat the game.

I've hardly played the game and I need a lot more hours to get a feel for it. It's really pretty cheap just to dump almost everything in EP and only bet very strong hands. Once I get in a couple of hundred hours -if I ever manage that- I'll adjust.

Kiss: Detroit Rock City
Babymetal: Gimme Chocolate (not a joke)
Vinnie Vincent: Boyz Are Gonna Rock

We had a kid in college whose warm up music was down with he sickness. He was like 5-10 and there 98. Always thought that was cool

I'll pretend there isn't as much Kesha on this list as there actually is.

Offspring: Come out and play
Avicii: I could be the one
Nicki Minaj: Starships
Who da funk: Shiny Disco Balls
Kesha: Blah Blah Blah
Kanye West: Stronger
Alexandra Stan: 1,000,000

I was listening to some Kesha on earphones at work when someone tapped my shoulder. "Is that Kesha?" she asked incredulously. "Yep," I admitted.

"I used to listen to that in high school."

Ouch.

Now I can't wait for April to end so I can go back to thinking of you as one of the most helpful 2+2 posters, as opposed to my current perception as the guy with terrible taste in music

ZOMG wants to merge the threads for the year. If I did that, would it change your perception of callipygian?

Also, did you get to meet up with ZOMG when he was playing at the ameristar?

Whenever someone is using earphones, and I can hear what they’re listening to, I think about how sound obeys the inverse square law and wonder if they’re damaging their hearing.

Help me Jesse8888, you're my only hope.

I think sound is 1/r, not 1/r^2

I think he has been lost to the Commerce and wallowing in the Pirates early season sputtering. Being in town this week to play the Padres should help.

Saw two 1-2 and a 2-4 going at commerce while I was up for some PLO last week. Not sure if built around our hero or not.

Unless you work for Theranos, in which case there's no hope for you whatsoever.