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03-22-2011 , 02:14 AM

knght311

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I just learned of this and didn't know if anyone else had heard of it. I have never read/seen it referenced on 2p2 but figured there were some tech savvy people on here that might know more about it and be able to fill us in.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Web

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03-22-2011 , 02:20 AM

nuisance

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I've heard of the darknet on Law&Order SVU when they are trying to bust a child porn ring.

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03-22-2011 , 02:34 AM

dkgojackets

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this was definitely talked about in another oot thread a while back, but I have no idea which one or where it is now

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03-22-2011 , 02:38 AM

dkgojackets

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/34...hacker-818951/

fourth page towards the top

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03-22-2011 , 08:07 AM

Showshone

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wow, that sounds awesome

how is it that i have never heard of this

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03-22-2011 , 12:57 PM

mused01

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i'll post a lot of info about it, including how to surf it, later on when i get home. it's really scary/interesting stuff if it's true, but i've never ventured off to try it (too scared). supposedly there are sites where you can hire assassins, buy drugs, and attend underground fight clubs to the death. they also have their own currency. just really shady backalley stuff. i felt nauseous reading the thread about it.

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03-22-2011 , 03:00 PM

Showshone

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Wait, im confused,

so the deep web are just random pages that dont show up in any search engine because the owner forgot(on purpose) to label em?

and darknet is a version of freenet that lets you anonymously share certain contents?

then why isnt every criminal organisation using darknet? or are they, and still somehow getting caught?

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03-22-2011 , 03:12 PM

guids

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http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2236696

this was a nice article about some guy who put up and is making some decent money using bitcoin + sportsbetting on the anon web, but looks like it violated wordpress ToS.

link to get you guy started:

http://www.silkroadmarket.org/

Last edited by guids; 03-22-2011 at 03:26 PM.

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03-22-2011 , 03:24 PM

fsoyars

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I want to go to there.

edit: having read more about it I take that back. I'm scared.

Last edited by fsoyars; 03-22-2011 at 03:32 PM.

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03-22-2011 , 03:49 PM

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wiper

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freenet doesn't sounds like the same thing as the deep web.

please let this thread get to 300 responses, sounds really interesting. i spent a minute or two googling, but hopefully someone can point me to the interesting stuff.

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03-22-2011 , 03:59 PM

#11

AsRequested

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The deep web is just the part of the web, that only authorized people can access. That includes large subnets from companies and institutions and also commercial information organisations in the form of archives, libraries, databases etc.
Only workers can access these via password or other authentication and access the content. searching for something can result in those "dynamic" websites, thats at least what i assume they mean.

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03-22-2011 , 04:02 PM

#12

Acct banned

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Originally Posted by guids

Woah @ silkroad

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03-22-2011 , 04:06 PM

#13

nuisance

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Is that silkroad real? What are the chances that you would get busted.

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03-22-2011 , 04:12 PM

#14

guids

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Originally Posted by nuisance

Is that silkroad real? What are the chances that you would get busted.

yes, real, never used it, dont want to speculate and get anyone in trouble though, but from a tech aspect, its pretty good

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03-22-2011 , 04:23 PM

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dkgojackets

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those links on silkroad look too sketchy for me to click on

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03-22-2011 , 04:31 PM

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pokerchap

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guids saying its not a terrible idea surprises me and definitely makes me think its legit. the question is: how good are the drugs?

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03-22-2011 , 04:45 PM

#17

riverdance

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these are not the droids you are looking for

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03-22-2011 , 04:46 PM

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snagglepuss

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the deep web is a lot less ominous than has been insinuated so far in this thread.

take for instance my local city's foreclosure auction website. or their records departments. there is a massive amount of information that can be queried from these sites, all of which would exist in the 'dark web' as opposed to the surface.

webcrawlers basically use hyperlinking massively for their indexing, so anything you access outside of general web hyperlinking often can be considered 'deep web', which search engines have a harder time indexing

no idea about silk road though, that seems pretty crazy, and if it is a thing i would assume the nsa is already all over it

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03-22-2011 , 04:52 PM

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LeapFrog

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mmm forbidden silkroad mescaline

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03-22-2011 , 05:03 PM

#20

slownpainful

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I'm watching this thread in hope and anticipation of just one testimonial that this silk road thing is legit and that hypothetically if someone were to use it hypothetically they are not going to get raped by the Feds in some possible way.

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03-22-2011 , 05:04 PM

#21

guids

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Guys, one thing you have to realize, is that the deep web, is different then the underground/illegal web, the deep web as a couple ppl alluded to eariler is stuff that most of us old schoolers know how to find (ie, not using google for everything); the underground web (freenet, i2p, etc) is a completely different ballgame.

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03-22-2011 , 05:20 PM

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Shhhhtonk

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Agree that the deep web is not exciting, scary or nefarious. For example, I used to work in IT/programming and one site we worked on was a web front end to property deeds in a county in North Carolina. So effectively allowing browser based searches for deed documents rather than manual/file cabinet/microfilm. That would be considered part of the deep web as there were many thousands of possible web pages, but they were only generated through specific queries on a password protected website. Therefore, google crawler would never get there.

But it doesn't get any more boring than property deeds, so not scary or exciting.

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03-22-2011 , 05:31 PM

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Showshone

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yeah, ofc everyone is mainly interested in the underground web

but as i asked earlier, why are like cp networks not using darknet or w/e? or are they and it isnt actually completely anonymous as claimed?

or are the caught because of money wires, hmm thats probably it

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03-22-2011 , 05:35 PM

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spyderracing

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Originally Posted by Showshone

Or maybe they are, and they work as intended...

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03-22-2011 , 05:41 PM

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prizminferno

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Originally Posted by spyderracing

Or maybe they are, and they work as intended...

yeah, this. this whole thread is a can of worms that probably shouldn't be opened. all of that underground stuff/tor/onion whatever is incredibly intriguing but I wouldn't touch it without being behind 72 proxies and on an anonymous network. read a lot about this lately which is probably why this thread was created, but I wouldn't touch this stuff.

Last edited by prizminferno; 03-22-2011 at 05:58 PM.