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Old 07-10-2019, 12:20 PM   #761
Fetalio
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Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Ukraine, Kyiv
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We also were scammed by few PPP clubs

KingsMicro ID 70494 (Philippines) - stolen ~14.000$
Legends ID 600300 (Philippines) - stolen ~ 10.000$
GoPro ID 738679 (Brazil) - stolen ~11.000$


The main purpose of this post is to warn all the poker community that PPPoker representatives are behaving extremely inadequately and they are continually encouraging fraud. Also if you know some one of "heros" of this post - please contact me.

I'll try to describe to avoid advertising. (I've talked to moderators of 2+2 before, so have to hide some info). Sorry for my week english, i'm not native speaker.

All of these clubs go in same way - first they stop respond u for few days, ater they says - you have bots and then talking about some investigation and then keep silence.

I've talked to different affiliates/agents - looks like PPP managment says to clubs ban some admins, who won a lot and reccomend them stole money.

A bit details:

A month ago Philippine club, Kings Micro (owner of Rae Spine or Raeggae Dohg https://www.facebook.com/elrobo85) stopped responding to our requests. We had a Facebook chat group where we served our players' accounts and made requests for depositing and withdrawing of money.

See below the screenshot of all chat participants:
https://i.gyazo.com/bc8c7ddb03f50363...b45803a824.png

On June 9, we made a withdrawal request for the amount of 100,000 php.
https://i.gyazo.com/a97b0d2dafe5d97e...8346ac04f6.png

The manager Abel Tagaytay (Ako Si Abel https://www.facebook.com/abel.tagaytay) accepted the request but after that all the club representatives stopped responding to us.

We tried to contact PPPoker representatives and also contacted Galina, Russian regional representative.
Later, we have also found contacts of Leo Ahn (https://www.facebook.com/wenkai.an.5).
As far as we understand, he is a representative of PPPoker and makes decisions on the Asian region.

Leo Ahn's logic is the following. He thinks that if i bring Russian traffic, it means i have only bots, not real players.

Therefore, we are undesirable for PPPoker, which permitted Rae Spine not to pay us our money and our players money in the amount of almost $14000.

We offered Leo to check our players for the game honesty. We offered several options, as large poker networks like PartyPoker.Bwin and Planetwin365 always do. However, Leo did not even respond.
See below our correspondence with Leo:
https://i.gyazo.com/c2206dd70565b5d4...bb1d377987.png
https://i.gyazo.com/a44a682c556be5a1...fc54efe497.png
https://i.gyazo.com/4f416ff02d454dea...9069a905a4.png
https://i.gyazo.com/7ae0153328c79b73...a000f37bb7.png
https://i.gyazo.com/77778af7a7920b7c...b49f51d9de.png
https://i.gyazo.com/2ee1a34a2fb8687c...360a653764.png
https://i.gyazo.com/15050df6b27374c1...f6cb9c0ed2.png

We talked to all our affiliate friends. Everyone who had experience with Leo told that he had been behaving inadequately and he had a huge intolerance towards Russian-speaking players.

So if some of u have any connections in Philippine - please contact me pm.

After these issue - i've sent letter to every club i cooperate with. All of them told me - no problem, we stay for you, dont worry, money in safe

And after two week i found my admin account banned, and every palyer under admin were banned too. Insane. Thanks God mostly clubs owners solve problem and pay money, but two of them Legends ID 600300 and GoPro ID 738679 didnt. In the end they stole money too.

Few screens and links to facebook - DONT WORK WITH THESE SCAMMERS

Legends ID 600300
Owners
Khalid Estabillo Macalanggan
https://www.facebook.com/khalid.macalanggan
Andrew Roa Duterte Aseo (Ronnie Alonte)
https://www.facebook.com/andrew062113

Conversation after issue:
https://i.gyazo.com/628f1cd236e18f09...5ded057bca.png
https://i.gyazo.com/f89acdc040c4ac44...51156ee628.png
https://i.gyazo.com/ba3543e9bf2c11cf...4399349dd6.png
https://i.gyazo.com/5b0570364b3613cf...be337562a0.png
https://i.gyazo.com/817bb04af304afe4...5ed0e486f4.png
https://i.gyazo.com/1ac271f589aecc5f...12446f4b75.png
https://i.gyazo.com/c2733227b787a56c...7528354068.png
https://i.gyazo.com/7fdf5d14938a3656...6d93412bc0.png
https://i.gyazo.com/40001c10972918b2...d07b0fe6d3.png
https://i.gyazo.com/46c63a0b12b11df5...688327e349.png
https://i.gyazo.com/71bfae4ad3ff6767...0310286e71.png
https://i.gyazo.com/89d5e3437f4024e1...bd91fe3dbf.png
https://i.gyazo.com/39a04c8325281c4d...4171ff17ff.png
https://i.gyazo.com/6566cf8049a87699...e162a250f6.png
https://i.gyazo.com/af29d61fdbee3d02...1a301346c1.png

after - no answer

So as u see - they guarantied us safety - but then stole money.

GoPro ID 738679 (Brazil)
Owner Eder Schaphauser Ziomek https://www.facebook.com/eder.ziomek
He playes on Stars, nickname: schaphz
https://www.instagram.com/eder.schaphz/

Union names Liga Premium 920

Conversation after issue
https://i.gyazo.com/05dcdf57cfe8817c...454693c5f7.png
https://i.gyazo.com/a07b584a8090049b...74a5b580cb.png
https://i.gyazo.com/72b33ec4bdd0aac3...c5ae219566.png

after no answer


U can ask me -
1. So - do you have bots and thats the reason? - No i have not, could find tons of players/agens/affs in runet who could HV me. Also over 15 clubs were on my side and send back money w/o any question.
2. I know for sure - club's owner decide - to pay or to steal money. I have not any financial transfers with PPP management, but a lot with club's owners.
3. Some reliable clubs complain - PPP threaten to close them, if they mone a part of traffic to new application U-Poker.

***

Put correct few links to screenshots in quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fetalio View Post
We also were scammed by few PPP clubs

KingsMicro ID 70494 (Philippines) - stolen ~14.000$
Legends ID 600300 (Philippines) - stolen ~ 10.000$
GoPro ID 738679 (Brazil) - stolen ~11.000$


The main purpose of this post is to warn all the poker community that PPPoker representatives are behaving extremely inadequately and they are continually encouraging fraud. Also if you know some one of "heros" of this post - please contact me.

I'll try to describe to avoid advertising. (I've talked to moderators of 2+2 before, so have to hide some info). Sorry for my week english, i'm not native speaker.

All of these clubs go in same way - first they stop respond u for few days, ater they says - you have bots and then talking about some investigation and then keep silence.

I've talked to different affiliates/agents - looks like PPP managment says to clubs ban some admins, who won a lot and reccomend them stole money.

A bit details:

A month ago Philippine club, Kings Micro (owner of Rae Spine or Raeggae Dohg https://www.facebook.com/elrobo85) stopped responding to our requests. We had a Facebook chat group where we served our players' accounts and made requests for depositing and withdrawing of money.

See below the screenshot of all chat participants:
https://i.gyazo.com/bc8c7ddb03f50363...b45803a824.png

On June 9, we made a withdrawal request for the amount of 100,000 php.
https://i.gyazo.com/a97b0d2dafe5d97e...8346ac04f6.png

The manager Abel Tagaytay (Ako Si Abel https://www.facebook.com/abel.tagaytay) accepted the request but after that all the club representatives stopped responding to us.

We tried to contact PPPoker representatives and also contacted Galina, Russian regional representative.
Later, we have also found contacts of Leo Ahn (https://www.facebook.com/wenkai.an.5).
As far as we understand, he is a representative of PPPoker and makes decisions on the Asian region.

Leo Ahn's logic is the following. He thinks that if i bring Russian traffic, it means i have only bots, not real players.

Therefore, we are undesirable for PPPoker, which permitted Rae Spine not to pay us our money and our players money in the amount of almost $14000.

We offered Leo to check our players for the game honesty. We offered several options, as large poker networks like PartyPoker.Bwin and Planetwin365 always do. However, Leo did not even respond.
See below our correspondence with Leo:
https://i.gyazo.com/c2206dd70565b5d4...bb1d377987.png
https://i.gyazo.com/a44a682c556be5a1...fc54efe497.png
https://i.gyazo.com/4f416ff02d454dea...9069a905a4.png
https://i.gyazo.com/7ae0153328c79b73...a000f37bb7.png
https://i.gyazo.com/77778af7a7920b7c...b49f51d9de.png
https://i.gyazo.com/2ee1a34a2fb8687c...360a653764.png
https://i.gyazo.com/15050df6b27374c1...f6cb9c0ed2.png

We talked to all our affiliate friends. Everyone who had experience with Leo told that he had been behaving inadequately and he had a huge intolerance towards Russian-speaking players.

So if some of u have any connections in Philippine - please contact me pm.

After these issue - i've sent letter to every club i cooperate with. All of them told me - no problem, we stay for you, dont worry, money in safe

And after two week i found my admin account banned, and every palyer under admin were banned too. Insane. Thanks God mostly clubs owners solve problem and pay money, but two of them Legends ID 600300 and GoPro ID 738679 didnt. In the end they stole money too.

Few screens and links to facebook - DONT WORK WITH THESE SCAMMERS

Legends ID 600300
Owners
Khalid Estabillo Macalanggan
https://www.facebook.com/khalid.macalanggan
Andrew Roa Duterte Aseo (Ronnie Alonte)
https://www.facebook.com/andrew062113

Conversation after issue:
https://i.gyazo.com/628f1cd236e18f09...5ded057bca.png
https://i.gyazo.com/f89acdc040c4ac44...51156ee628.png
https://i.gyazo.com/ba3543e9bf2c11cf...4399349dd6.png
https://i.gyazo.com/5b0570364b3613cf...be337562a0.png
https://i.gyazo.com/817bb04af304afe4...5ed0e486f4.png
https://i.gyazo.com/1ac271f589aecc5f...12446f4b75.png
https://i.gyazo.com/c2733227b787a56c...7528354068.png
https://i.gyazo.com/7fdf5d14938a3656...6d93412bc0.png
https://i.gyazo.com/40001c10972918b2...d07b0fe6d3.png
https://i.gyazo.com/46c63a0b12b11df5...688327e349.png
https://i.gyazo.com/71bfae4ad3ff6767...0310286e71.png
https://i.gyazo.com/89d5e3437f4024e1...bd91fe3dbf.png
https://i.gyazo.com/39a04c8325281c4d...4171ff17ff.png
https://i.gyazo.com/6566cf8049a87699...e162a250f6.png
https://i.gyazo.com/af29d61fdbee3d02...1a301346c1.png

after - no answer

So as u see - they guarantied us safety - but then stole money.

GoPro ID 738679 (Brazil)
Owner Eder Schaphauser Ziomek https://www.facebook.com/eder.ziomek
He playes on Stars, nickname: schaphz
https://www.instagram.com/eder.schaphz/

Union names Liga Premium 920

Conversation after issue
https://i.gyazo.com/05dcdf57cfe8817c...454693c5f7.png
https://i.gyazo.com/a07b584a8090049b...74a5b580cb.png
https://i.gyazo.com/72b33ec4bdd0aac3...c5ae219566.png

after no answer


U can ask me -
1. So - do you have bots and thats the reason? - No i have not, could find tons of players/agens/affs in runet who could HV me. Also over 15 clubs were on my side and send back money w/o any question.
2. I know for sure - club's owner decide - to pay or to steal money. I have not any financial transfers with PPP management, but a lot with club's owners.
3. Some reliable clubs complain - PPP threaten to close them, if they mone a part of traffic to new application U-Poker.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 07-10-2019 at 06:15 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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