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Old 10-14-2009, 08:55 AM   #1
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Pokercast Episode 92 - Bonus Show - Million Dollar Challenge with Daniel Negreanu

Live from the Two Plus Two Studios, October 13th 2009 - The feature guest this week on the Two Plus Two Pokercast is the always entertaining Daniel Negreanu. Daniel comes on the program to talk about the new television show he is starring in called the Pokerstars Million Dollar Challenge and his second place finish in the WSOP Europe Main Event. "PokerStars George" talks about the vision behind developing the PokerStars Million Dollar Challenge. Aaron Jones aka aejones provides some more great poker strategy about "reverse implied odds" in this weeks Leggo Poker strategy segment. Mike and Adam also provide some more EPT London coverage and discuss forum static.


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Old 10-14-2009, 09:30 AM   #2
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:16 AM   #3
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Re: Pokercast Episode 92 - Million Dollar Challenge Special with Daniel Negreanu

What about George Negreanu?
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:04 AM   #4
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Haven't listened yet, but am hoping Aaron defends the state of his pool in last week's 2M2M
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I believe Poker Million shows hand numbers.
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Old 10-14-2009, 01:23 PM   #6
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Surprise show? This is the greatest thanks giving ever!
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Old 10-14-2009, 01:28 PM   #7
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Old 10-14-2009, 01:36 PM   #8
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Not sure what Poker Pages was like, but Hendon Mob has a pretty good tournament database.
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:26 PM   #9
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Downloading now.

Thanks guys for the bonus show!
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:00 PM   #10
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Typing this mid session (yay to synchronized breaks --- ty PS)

Episode was really good, except that DN sucks like a .....








Just kidding. He was a great guest this episode, really liked him better this time around than the last time when he was talkin' primarily about all the small ball stuff.
Nice job on giving stars probs for the big picture, they really did a good job in that regard (despite the program not being to interesting for your average poker degen ^_^ )

Also it was interesting to listen to PS-George to get some insights regarding the stars marketing section.

Alrighty 5 min break over for me ... I'm gonna find out in about half an hour if it was good to write this post mid-session instead of going to the bathroom.
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:11 PM   #11
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Re: Pokercast Episode 92 - Bonus Show - Million Dollar Challenge with Daniel Negreanu

Love the show but you guys realize that less than 1% of your audience cares about hockey, right?

I'm on a fantasy (american) football forum which is obviously filled with sports fans. They did a poll and something like 20% of people actually knew that the NHL was starting on the day that it did last week.

While I'm at it - the obsession with Hellmuth and UB has gone way, way too far at this point.

Other than those things, the pokercast is great! :-)
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:43 PM   #12
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Re: Pokercast Episode 92 - Bonus Show - Million Dollar Challenge with Daniel Negreanu

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While I'm at it - the obsession with Hellmuth and UB has gone way, way too far at this point.
I don't believe we mentioned either even once this week.

We would also prefer not to harp on negative stories so much, Having said that, if you are asking us to just ignore the biggest ongoing scandal and black mark in the history of online poker and a story that is far from over(which is exactly what UB would love us to do) it`s just not going to happen.
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:49 PM   #13
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Love the show but you guys realize that less than 1% of your audience cares about hockey, right?
When we had Orel Hershiser and David Wells on, people said the same thing about baseball. When we talked European football on our UK shows, people said the same thing about that. If we had Haralabos Voulgaris(expert NBA handicapper) or Jerry Buss on and starting talking basketball people would say the same thing about that. If we started making NFL references, our Australian audience would say WTF.

While I agree hockey in the US is about as popular as underwater cake decorating, we do have a big Canadian following and generally only try to bring hockey up when the guest has a specific connection to the game. Daniel is an NHL fantasy hockey junkie. We are aware it is very niche.

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Old 10-14-2009, 08:03 PM   #14
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Sorry Mike, but hockey in the US is much more popular than underwater cake decorating. GO FLYERS

I have not listened to this week's podcast yet, so I don't know if you mentioned the league. However, once it is time for the league to start again, please take a few minutes to push getting more people to play. After all, Stona need the extra prize money for hamburgers (just joking Stona).
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:00 PM   #15
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I don't like Hockey, but it's not like they talked about it all show - it was probably 2 minutes max. Plus, after 2 hours of Channing last week they could have done 2 hours of Hockey for all I care.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:10 PM   #16
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Are you ****ing insane?

Robert Parish is comparable to John Salley? That's absurd.

Robert Parish is in the Hall of Fame and for good reasons. Over a 21 year career he was an All Star 10 times.

Salley had an 11 year career and was an all star NEVER.

I mean, I love you guys and all but sweet creamy jesus that was absurd. I mean, I haven't watched an NBA game in a decade or more and this jumped out at me as being absurd.

Okay, enough ranting, have a lovely day.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:33 PM   #17
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Good show guys, but once again you completely ignored all the underwater cake decorating fans who tune in week after week and never get a crumb.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:46 PM   #18
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Re: Pokercast Episode 92 - Bonus Show - Million Dollar Challenge with Daniel Negreanu

[x] underwater cake decorating ITT

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From this years underwater cake decorating world cup:


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EDIT: Just dug up the pic of the winning cake for this year ...

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Old 10-14-2009, 10:15 PM   #19
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Re: Pokercast Episode 92 - Bonus Show - Million Dollar Challenge with Daniel Negreanu

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Love the show but you guys realize that less than 1% of your audience cares about hockey, right?
The way we have always approached the show is to fill it with stuff that is interesting to us and if others like it, then great!

No real reason to continue to do it if we didn't enjoy the actual conversation as we're certainly not going to retire off the proceeds.

We talk about hockey, Bunner's high school girlfriends, TT's scarf collection, and Deeb's grandmother. Some will like it some won't.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:16 PM   #20
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:24 PM   #21
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While I'm at it - the obsession with Hellmuth and UB has gone way, way too far at this point.
To be honest, I'm totally disappointed in the big names of the poker world, as well as the entire poker media, for how they let PH, AD and UB get away with all the lying.

This week, I wanted to talk about Hellmuth's recent interview on Pokerroad where he said easily the most offensive thing he's ever said regarding the stealing that his company did.

If you care you can go listen, but he basically says every other site has huge scandals that nobody ever talks about. It's his way of smearing sites that have worked very hard and spent a lot of money to protect it's integrity and players.

Anyway, I didn't bother to bring it up because nobody seems to care and ranting about his borderline criminal behavior would fall on deaf ears, like yours, I'm sure.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:44 PM   #22
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Anyway, I didn't bother to bring it up because nobody seems to care and ranting about his borderline criminal behavior would fall on deaf ears, like yours, I'm sure.
Totally with you.
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:27 PM   #23
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1, 1, 1.
*sigh*

obviously it took me like 10 minutes of staring at those numbers to actually figure out what they meant ... .... also originally I didn't wanna derail too much, but you leave me with little choice here. This cake will definately blow your mind, it is insanely well decorated ... I mean LOOK AT THE DECORATIONS ON THE CAKE AND HOW IT'S ALL DONE UNDERWATER:



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EDIT: Oh, to get a little bit of on-topic content in this post ... I'd like to thank you for pointing me to that "Poker Album Covers"-Thread, it really seems to have potential and come along nicely.
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:41 PM   #24
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Catholics luv To Gamble MJ im Catholic
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Old 10-15-2009, 02:16 AM   #25
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When we had Orel Hershiser and David Wells on, people said the same thing about baseball. When we talked European football on our UK shows, people said the same thing about that. If we had Haralabos Voulgaris(expert NBA handicapper) or Jerry Buss on and starting talking basketball people would say the same thing about that. If we started making NFL references, our Australian audience would say WTF .

While I agree hockey in the US is about as popular as underwater cake decorating, we do have a big Canadian following and generally only try to bring hockey up when the guest has a specific connection to the game. Daniel is an NHL fantasy hockey junkie. We are aware it is very niche.
i am from Australia and i wouldn't mind it. although i am getting right into the NFL NHL... but i have pay tv so it's on all the time... i watched a few games like week. there was like 10 seconds left and one of the teams got a touch down or something... was cool. ( lol yes i know nothing about NFL )
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