The insurance company made money here. They got the deductible, sold the car and jacked his rates. GG Geico. He got his homework and cds back.

i could listen to traheho all day. he is gawd

Can't say I agree, being a geek and a microdonk myself. Conceptually that stuff makes sense to me, although I doubt its applicability to my usual games It gives a nice insight though into how to think about poker.

I forced myself to listen to the strategy session again and I must say my initial reaction was wrong. It is understandable but it is also borderline hogwash. I imagine that the deep thinkers out there become bored with ABC poker and delve into new concepts such as meta game and fancy play syndrome or fps. (cue Doyle Brunson's reaction)
For the mere mortal however this could be categorized as over thinking and may very well mess up what was otherwise a sound game. good luck to Leggo poker, I hope there are enough geniuses out there to buy in.

really like the shaun deeb intro.

I'm somewhat curious as to why Dalla didn't look at court records himself and/or any available transcripts from the (five?) psychologists Amarillo Slim is said to have seen.

Saying that he was there simply to present the story isn't really good enough. External facts were available and are critical in giving the reader or listener a more objective source for judgment beyond, "Slim says he's innocent."

It might have been helpful to explain or put into context what a misdemeanor assault charge means. That's a far cry from a pedophilia plea. Adam's basic point that any reasonable person would battle a false pedophilia beef tooth and nail is well taken, but it isn't clear that sort of charge, or even felonies in general, were even on the table. That sort of back story is necessary.

Dalla has been a good interview and his writing is usually enjoyable and informative, but in this case he really didn't resolve anything nor did he appear to have interest in putting a little elbow grease into the story in the form of research.

Torelli was a solid guest. His thoughts present a somewhat grim picture about the overall profitability and enjoyment to be derived from today's game. The Raymer tangent is indicative of the struggles that even the most solid players can have. That Raymer then gets to endure shrill personal attacks for offhanded commentary is a needless indignity.

That Torelli seemed so pleased with the training site income and that Raymer was attacked for not being more deferential about the Stars income he makes might lead some listeners to conclude that there is really very little money left to be made in playing poker and that cashing in on one's own celebrity is now the promised land.

This of course bring us back to Amarillo Slim. Still having no idea whatsoever about his guilt or innocence, he more than anyone else seemed to understand this concept of "poker personality" in the mid-70s yet missed out entirely on poker's most lucrative boom. That he's chosen to launch a rehabilitation campaign now that all the low hanging fruit has been stripped clean shows that he's due to bump against a very steep learning curve regarding the modern poker landscape.

I like the cut of your jib. You may put more thought into your show reviews than we do the actual show.

gre8 ome

Plz, dont dumb down the show . . . .

(I wouldnt mind a calculus segment either )

Hey Adam, the reference to Slim's angle shoot flew right over my head initially. I've heard the phrase angle shoot a number of times but never really related it to any particular action. Do you know where this took place, tournament or cash game? Are there no rules against it? Is this move considered worse than being slowrolled? Any other examples of angle shooting? thanks

Great show fellas!!!

You're in luck, I hear 2 + 2 is considering a new show, Botcast. Hosts Mac Johnson and Linux Schwartz.

angle shooting is basically when one player goes against the 'spirit' of a rule, in order to get some sort of read...or in this case see an oponents hand. It can extend beyond this though because i remember watching one episode of the WPT where someone (not going to say a name cause im not POSITIVE who it is atm) told another guy he could see his cards...and he of course mucked, but it was extremely unclear in the end whether his cards were actually seen by the other guy.

Example:
Dany Robison (i think) talked about the introduction of the betting line, because a player kept string betting (putting chips out, keeping his hand on them, then pulling them back). So whenever dany rolled over his hand on the end the other player could pull his chips back if he knew he was beat, and still had his hand touching them.

Having been In the legal system I know that they will give you deals and if they come to you and say that your going to do a possible 15 years or you can plea out for a lesser sentence of probation.I don't think any one would think twice about that.He plead no contest witch make me believe that they didn't have very good evidence because no contest is NOT a admission of gilt.Any D.A would not except a no contest unless there was a lack of evidence I know that from personal experience.I was charged With D.U.I.ten years ago and I plead no contest to a lesser charge of alcohol related reckless driving because They did have Blood alcohol test on me.n

Where's the link to the "traheho" posting about life and poker not being very compelling anymore?

BB

The blog posting I mean.

BB

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/blogs/article/5023

I really enjoy the show guys. I was wondering if someone could tell me what the song leading into the final segment is called.

Thanks!

The songs from the show are listed in the first post of the thread:

Pokercast Theme - Demitone Productions Inc. © 2007 : Metric - Front Row - Fantasies © 2009 : Silversun Pickups - Panic Switch - Swoon © 2009 : Shout Out Out Out Out - In the End it's Your Friends - Reintegration Time © 2009 :

Ah ha! Now I can learn reading comprehension to the list of things I've learned from these forums. Thanks

I love the show, love the length and despite this show being the most depressing pokercast I can remember (disillusionment with the game, child molestation, the passing of chip's son), it was still good.

But on the leggo poker thing....I think they are awful segments. I'm not doubting their abilities as poker players, but the sign of a good coach is being able to communicate in a way that is clear, understandable and where the listener learns. Sklansky may say some bizarre things at times, but at least he communicates in a way that is easy to understand and makes you think. The leggo poker guys though.... well when they are not talking at 100mph in that really flat, monotone way that seems to be prevelent amongst poker players, they start trying to over-complicate things for the sake - I presume - of sounding authoratitive or clever. I almost fell off my chair when Aaron said something like 'can result in fancy play syndrome' and THEN added 'or FPS'... I mean....what the....? Personally, I think that this weeks segment could have been explained in simple english in about half the words. But that wouldn't sound complex enough I guess.

And whats with all the 'one and only' tag, and his self proclaimed 'the man, the myth, the legend' status on leggo poker.....Come on, sounds like the kid has a touch of the Phil Hellmuth syndrome (otherwise known as PHS).

And whilst I'm unable to prove it, I reckon this approach will turn a lot of potential leggo poker subscribers off.

Aside my my mini rant above, keep up the good work guys

Now PHS is something I would pay to know more about

Bunner, could you edit a 3 second pause after every 4th word in aejones' next segment please? And while you're at it, rename it to "The Leggo Strategy Half Hour".

Writing comprehension still on the to-do list.

Regarding Slim saying no one has ever said anything to him in a poker room before regarding his plea, this is yet another obv lie. Pretty sure 2+2er FeliciaLee(?) about 4 years ago posted a fairly in-depth commentary on how he was shouted out of a smallish tournament a lot of women were playing in (possibly a ladies only???). Anyways, funny how he says his friends abandoned him, but yet NO ONE has EVER said ONE WORD to him about it.

Remember always, Slim is a hustler. He always knows the odds, and poker pariah is light years better result than prison pariah.