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Originally Posted by BigRounder9
About the byes: how about giving those players who receive a bye, half the chips when they start round 2.
So if you get the advantage of skipping round 1 (which doubles your chance of making it to round 3), you get the disadvantage of working with half a stack (which should halve your chance of getting to round 3).
Half seems too punitive -- i.e. the advantage and disadvantage you state do not offset in my opinion. But I like the way you're thinking.
There is no good way to solve the problem Bonomo and others complained about. I was long in the camp of doing "half-price" play-in but the more I thought about it, the more I realized it's not a great solution either. This year was a tad goofy because the field was slightly larger than 128. But imagine if there had been 125 runners. Would the WSOP suddenly refund almost the entire field half their buy-ins? While the players would say yes, the tournament organizers would never go for it.
In the end, I have more recently found myself siding with Adam on this argument. You know what you're getting into when you register. The chances of getting a bye are the same for all entrants. So at the time you fork over your entry fee, it IS a fair system even if turns out to be unlucky for certain players.
Now, MJ opined that a tournament should be fair from the moment the first hand is dealt, not when the players register. I disagree with this. Suppose two people sign up for a regular MTT. One player finds himself with, say, ElkY and Jason Mercier in the two seats to his right. Furthermore, Ike Haxton will have the button on our hero's BB. The other player has two random donks in the two leftward seats, with a third rando holding the button on his BB.
At least for the early part of this tournament, our second player has it FAR worse than our first. So would you say the tournament was unfair to four first guy? Probably not. In terms of
fairness, getting a bye vs. not getting a bye in a HU tournament is no more or less fair than getting an easy table in an MTT -- even if its effect is more dramatic.
Even if you throw out the MTT comparison and just consider the HU tournament, take a look at the initial matchups for this event:
http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/reports/12112\$10K_HEADS_UP_1st_ROUND_MATCHUPS.pdf
No offense to Ronald Crabtree of Old Hickory, Tenn., but I'd say E-Fro had a much easier first round than Yevgeniy Timoshenko or Steve O'Dwyer (who drew each other). Should Timoshenko get a refund because he had diminished equity in this tournament compared to one of his cohorts? How 'bout Matt Marafioti, who drew Chris Moore? Imagine if Marafioti went to Jack Effel, pointed at Moore's finishes at two previous $10K heads-up events, and demanded a reduced buy-in. I think Effel would still be laughing.
Playing a first-round match while 75 percent of the field gets a bye downright sucks. I'd never question that. But to say it's unfair strikes me as being, well, results-oriented. And poker players know better than that.