Live from the Two Plus Two Studios, September 12th 2011 - Mike McDonald & WCOOP Coverage The feature guest this week on the Two Plus Two PokerCast is the latest Epic Poker League champion Mike "Timex" McDonald. Mike returns to the PokerCast to talk about his second biggest live tournament score, the controversial EPL decision to exclude an amateur player after winning a satellite seat and his return to school. Mike and Adam also recap all the completed action from the 10th annual World Championship of Online Poker connecting with SteveD to get his take on the series so far. Deuces Cracked coach 'Bellatrix' talks about 'Pre-emptive Betting' in this weeks Leggo Poker / Deuces Cracked strategy segment. Mike and Adam preview the 'TV Comedy Madness' Final Four in forum static and of course give away the password for the September 18th Poker Stars VIP Club Invitational for PokerCast listeners.



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I like how Timex's dad takes a piece of him in the 2+2 marketplace - a few flamed him for his high markup, I guess that is one way to prove your point.

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How can you guys complain about Full Tilt's ethics so much and then say there shouldn't be an ethics committee for EPL? It seems to be a very inconsistent stance.

I can't begin to imagine how you feel a billion dollar corporation and a 250 player poker league can begin to be compared, but do please expound on how they are similar in any way?

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Wanted to thank whomever mentioned Jay Mohr's podcast. I love me some Pokercast but had some extra availability in my listening sched now that I'm up to date with all 187 eps. I listened to 'Mohrstories' podcast and it was hilarious.

I know comedy is big with a lot of PC listeners so I definitely suggest checking it out if you want some non-poker adult-oriented listening in your diet.

JD - feel free to edit me here if this is inappropriate forum toutage.

Are you saying the EPL isn't big enough to worry about ethics? Everyone should be acting ethically especially with large sums of money involved and there should be things in place to make sure this happens.

Size has nothing to do with. The WSOP is 100x bigger than the EPL will ever be and they don't have an ethics committee. You need to differentiate between gambling/poker ethics in general and an 'ethics committee' that meets and discusses players personal life.

What I'm saying is the EPL doesn't need an 'ethics committee'. That's very different than saying a casino shouldn't expect their customers to act ethically. Casinos have always had the power to remove someone from their property/games for any reason they see fit. They don't need a committee made of up players from the league(not casino executives) deciding based on vague, ambiguous guidelines who is and isn't worthy.

If the casino doesn't want you playing for any reason, you don't play. It's always been that way. The WSOP, EPT and other major poker tours all expect their players to be ethical from a gambling and behavior standpoint and will act accordingly if not, but they certainly don't feel it necessary to dig into peoples personal lives to determine if they are worthy of placing a bet.

I'm not quite sure I buy your "women are more risk averse" argument, Mike. It sounds a whole lot like the "women don't have a math gene" (e.g Larry Summer's argument - blergh) and that's why women in science are far underrepresented.

For me it is a chicken/egg problem and mostly cultural. It carries a stigma to be a woman gambling. Much more in a public setting like big buyin tourneys. I know of a lot of women that prefer the anonymity of online poker, exactly because they can hide there.

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Plus, they are tourneys, ewwww.

I completely agree size doesn't matter but you did bring up the sizes of FT and EPL not me, which is why I made the comment/asked the question.

I've had a quick scan thru your posts in the NVG thread and I agree with you on all points apart the fact the ethics committee shouldn't exist. If the owners/executives of the EPL want to run a whiter than white league then an ethics committee would be useful. It is clearly very flawed at the moment but if they can solve its problems then there is no reason it shouldn't exist.

If any league or tournament series, WSOP, EPT, EPL, etc, wants to have a rule stating "if you fit these criteria you will only have your buy-in refunded" and it is clearly stated before the tournament starts then an independent (Annie Duke or any other EPL owners/executives should not be part of it) open ethics committee surely has to be better than it being dealt with behind closed doors by sort of security team, at the whim of those with a vested interest. All poker leagues and tournaments series have a team of people to enforce the rules of the tournament. The EPL has decided to do this with the "Epic Poker Standards & Conduct Committee" and if it can be properly implemented I think its preferable than other current methods.

My theory is simply that women have different and IMO superior priorities in life than men do. Men prioritize things like drinking and gambling. In fact many including myself would probably do that all day every day if we could.

A majority(not all) of women prioritize things like family, kids, building a home etc.. and look at gambling as a fun recreational activity to do occasionally(exceptions to this of course also) but not something to take seriously. Because of this, I think the sheer volume of men who think being good at poker is important will always be greater than the number of women who think the same thing.

I'm certain that if a large percentage of women thought that being good at poker was something important, they could potentially dominate the game. It's not a matter of ability, brains, skill or otherwise, I believe it's just a matter than not nearly as many women think being good at poker is worthwhile.

Stars would love to grow their presence in the World's second most populous country, India.

Therefore, Victor Ramdin may be very valuable to them, since he is clearly of Indian descent.

Admittedly, I don't know enough about Indian culture to judge if someone from Guyana or the US would have marketing value there, but it is certainly possible.

Yes, but those are cultural and not natural traits. And if you think women don't gamble, you obviously haven't seen slot machines, bingo halls (the majority of people sitting in front of those machines are women). Many of my friends meet regularly. Guess what, they ain't knitting. The play dice, bridge and yes, poker. They just don't do it in an open manner, where egos are displayed like poker. It is the stigma associated with that game in the open.

Also, we're talking 10% here, not a majority, not even a large percentage.

They also don't do it for high stakes(aversion to risk) as the best 150 poker players in the world do.

You can't possibly be saying that because 60 year old ladies like playing bingo and penny slots that we are likely to see a flock of 22 year women starting to play 10K poker tournaments. Come on, bella.

No, I actually agree with you that I don't think women are gonna flock to high stakes tourneys. But one can always hope for 10%...

It's mainly semantics and I wanted to emphasize the lack of women in poker is cultural and I personally think it has nothing to do with the gambling aspect, but other aspects where the traits that are thought of typically manly are highlighted more.

OMG.............this thread needs some levity

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NOTHING beats little kids being flattened by large dogs be it cultural or natural.

Bellatrix and I always bicker. That way we can hug it out later.

Is it just me or is it strange that

http://www.kristygazes.com/ STILL says she plays online at Full Tilt Poker!?

I remember reading that she was playing less and managing a successful arbitrage business or something. I'm not sure who would want to invest money with someone who's own personal website is so out of date, out of touch, and suggests a business connection to a multimillion dollar worldwide financial fraud????

Hall-of-Famer!!???