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Old 07-20-2011, 06:51 AM   #1
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PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

Live from the Two Plus Two Studios, July 19th 2011 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones The Two Plus Two PokerCast crew has safely returned from Las Vegas to bring you this year's World Series of Poker Main Event special. Guest co-host Terrence Chan joins Mike and Adam in studio to break down the Main Event including the ground breaking, thirty minute delayed coverage provided by ESPN. The guys first connect with Olivier Busquet, one of the commentators selected by ESPN to provided continuos hand analysis. Olivier talks about his own Main Event play and what this new type of coverage means for the integrity of the game. The guys then connect with David "Doc" Sands to talk about his deep run along with his girlfriend Erika Moutinho and what it was like to be so heavily focused on by ESPN as they reached closer to the final table. Aaron Jones is also featured on this weeks program to talk about his deep run in this year's Main Event and provides some live strategy for this weeks Leggo Poker / Deuces Cracked strategy segment. Mike and Adam talk about the final ten players, get into some forum static and of course give away the password for the July 24th Poker Stars VIP Club Invitational for PokerCast listeners.


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Old 07-20-2011, 06:57 AM   #2
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

1ST
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:22 AM   #3
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

2rd?... Thanks!

Edit: omg Ben Lamb made November 9... Talk about Pokercast karma...
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:22 AM   #4
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

Woot !!
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:41 AM   #5
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

farth...that still puts me in the Nov 9
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:47 AM   #6
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

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Old 07-20-2011, 08:08 AM   #7
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

Poker Million final has always been live on Sky Sports in the UK with hole cards.
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Old 07-20-2011, 08:34 AM   #8
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

MJ - you definitely hit the nail on the head with the 'I don't think people really knew what was coming'...comment

but I dont think anyone could have predicted how good a job the production team did, especially just filling around the bet//fold and the breaks.

Kara was great....Antonio (and I'm not a fan of watching Antonio play TV poker) was superb...and Phil Hellmuth (geez did he try about as hard as he could to be 'entertaining'?) was for the most part a positive addition as well. And of course Lon was super solid as the glue holding the whole thing together.

I do think you guys (MJ//Adam//Terrence) still are a little disconnected to the potential poker watching viewership via ESPN. I see it basically three groups: (1) poker players (pros)//those in the know 1%; (2) people with a genuine interest, who keep up with it in some way 5%; (3) the rest of the ESPN viewership 94%

from what Terrence and Adam said, group (1) was a little bored, being part of group (2) I can say it was really good, I DVRed all the coverage and watched maybe 90% of the hours. I honestly think group (3) was barely affected though. Hopefully it'll be the Tuesday edited shows that can reach that group (3) contingent in some way.

like Terrence said, the average Joe would turn to ESPN and see basically a telethon sans Jerry Lewis...ahh well maybe Hellmuth is playing Jerry Lewis, but the average Joe would definitely bail for L&O reruns somewhere.

Sorry Olivier...not sure players wearing 'Full Tilt patches' is too much of a thing to consider at this point :P

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Old 07-20-2011, 08:40 AM   #9
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

BEST LINEUP EVER!
Aaron Jones(103rd best poker player in the world), Terrence Chan(best guest co-host), Olivier Busquet(best poker commentator in the world) and David Sands(runs pretty pretty good - not just in poker)
I'm so excited to listen to this piece of gold.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:24 AM   #10
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

I agree with Terrence that showing the hole cards at the end of the hand was more interesting. Even if I wasn't sure what might be going on (most of the time), hearing experts talk about the hand without knowing the hole cards was educational.
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Old 07-20-2011, 10:10 AM   #11
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

I'm ready for it!
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Old 07-20-2011, 10:59 AM   #12
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

twelfth. sigh.
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:39 AM   #13
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

2007 ME Final Table had 6 different nationalities, 7 if you count Yang as being from the country of his birth rather than the one he emigrated to.

The 2011 ME Final Table also has 6 different nationalities, 7 if you count Bounahra as being from the country he emigrated to or Lebanon rather than the US. (Hendon has him as from the US, other places as Belize).

Nice international flavour.

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Old 07-20-2011, 11:43 AM   #14
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

omg best intro ever
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:54 AM   #15
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

oh Terrance had to play a sequestered wsop final table?

#firstworldproblems
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:55 AM   #16
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

Direct link for our mobile peeps

http://pokercast.s3.amazonaws.com/twoplustwo_181.mp3
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:38 PM   #17
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

re: revealing the hands on the flop vs. revealing the hands after the hand is over.

In theory a hand can last longer than the half-hour delay. The Lamb/Gianetti hand had to have been about a 20-minute hand. You would need to institute some sort of a shot clock into the tournament structure in order to prevent angling.

Obv, any player has the option to call the clock, but I'm sure this is a rule implemented by the gaming commission and not espn.

Not sure what the logic is about not showing hands that don't see a flop though...
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:10 PM   #18
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

I prefer not revealing the pocket cards before the hand is over. It makes TV poker feel more like poker and the analysis is much more valuable. I wish all TV poker was like this.
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:33 PM   #19
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

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oh Terrance had to play a sequestered wsop final table?

#firstworldproblems
I can totally understand that this sounds like some combination of a first world problem and a thinly veiled brag, but it honestly and truly did suck. It was about as lousy a final table experience as you can get. We were allowed one guest, no cell phones, and escorted to the bathroom. The only thing left to cap off the experience would be if they slid our food under the door.
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:49 PM   #20
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

The PCA started it on TV...
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:11 PM   #21
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As much as I love the Pokercast I just cant stand Pokerstars Steve. Any possibility that the viewers can pay you the same amount that pokerstars pays you and cut him out? Not much fun listening to someone promoting pokerstars for half an hour.. Although Im just starting to skip his part.
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:26 PM   #22
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Re: PokerCast Episode 181 - WSOP Main Event Special with Olivier Busquet, David Sands & Aejones

In before domda's synopsis








Spoiler:
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:31 PM   #23
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As much as I love the Pokercast I just cant stand Pokerstars Steve. Any possibility that the viewers can pay you the same amount that pokerstars pays you and cut him out? Not much fun listening to someone promoting pokerstars for half an hour.. Although Im just starting to skip his part.
This last part is interesting. Don't know for sure if you're American obv but your post kind of sounds as though you were fine with Steve until you couldn't play on Stars but becuase you can't but the rest of the planet still can, you would still like the show to ignore the rest of the world and cater only to you.
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:35 PM   #24
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The PCA started it on TV...
Yes and no. Officially, the PCA 2011 was groundbreaking in similar fashion however the only part of the coverage(one hour delay) that made it to ESPN2(real TV, not internet) was the heads up battle between Galen Hall and Chris Oliver.

This is the first time we have seen days of coverage with dozens of hours showing virtually an entire tournament from start(Day 3) to finish(November 9).
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:44 PM   #25
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This last part is interesting. Don't know for sure if you're American obv but your post kind of sounds as though you were fine with Steve until you couldn't play on Stars but becuase you can't but the rest of the planet still can, you would still like the show to ignore the rest of the world and cater only to you.
The last part would be interesting, if I was from the land of the free. Unfortunately for your response Im scandinavian with blonde hair and I play most of my poker at Pokerstars. I would love you to ignore the rest of the world and cater only to me, as Im selfish. It has nothing to do with where Im from and what I can do, I just find him pretty boring as he is a representive of Pokerstars and is talking about pokerstars. Like when I watch Fox news, and Bill OReilly is on. Thats all. Good day.
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