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Originally Posted by Billman
If you were Stars the DOJ seized your operating capital because your player funds were sitting in a segregated IOM bank account. Thus PS has no problem paying out players. It hurt. Even if it was only $100 million or so that's gotta hurt but the player's funds are not at risk.
If you're with another poker room who wasn't using that type of accounting the DOJ just seized your player funds and now the poker room has to use their operating capital to make your account good. Depending on how much they seized that may be more than you have liquid.
I think its good that you reiterated that. THE IOM required this segregation, a very real physical one, not just one of accounting. Because of that requirement, Stars had (some) player funds truly segregated and out of the reach of the DOJ.
This next bit is of course speculation, but I would imagine that, like a bank or an insurance company, a poker site holds funds until they are requested, and business prudence would expect them not to necessarily hold ALL the funds, but a percentage, a reserve against withdrawls. Now, without regulation, the companies would be subject to their own judgement (or lack thereof) as to what % of players funds to hold in reserve. My guess is that FTP (#2 in the market wanting badly to build market-share, splashy image, high-profile and extensive/expensive marketing) would follow a very aggressive business model and taking $$$ that might have been held in reserve by a more conservative company and firing it off into the "business".
So if these assumptions are correct, FTP would be strangled by both a minimal reserve and the physical exposure (DOJ seizure) of much or maybe all of the reserves they did hold. A higher % of players in the US v rest-of-world would also tighten the noose. Their outside of US operations would have to work even harder to generate money needed to replenish US depositors.
Thanks Bill also for verbalizing the example as to FTP pros/partners and the likelihood of them 'putting their own funds back into the pot'. Of course that's not going to happen. Recent business events here in the US have given us literally thousands of examples of executives with 8-figure payouts 'managing' companies that became insolvent under their stewardship. Certainly none of these dudes went into their pockets to make good.
Maybe FullTilt can sell their software/marketshare and return .50/$1 in a timely manner? My guess is whatever players get in the first (partial) payment will be what they get in total. I dont see FTP going into future earnings in the rest of the world to make good on US players accts, as would most certainly be the honorable thing, but maybe not the best business decision.
Ultimately we'll see whether its greed or honor that prevails I guess.