Quick Review Of Episode 101

Opening Gag

[ ] On the money
[ ] Funny after it was explained
[x] Didn't get it


Forum Static

[x] Interesting as always
[ ] Worth putting up with
[ ] Waste of time

Statergy Segment With Andrew Lichtenberger

[ ] Giving away gold
[ ] Of Dubious Merit
[x] Play tight live ,loosen up online


Guest Sement - Doyle Brunson

[x] Living Legend
[ ] Ho hum another early 20s superstar
[ ] Never heard of him


Interview

[ ] Boring waste of time
[ ] Only trying to sell book/video
[x] fascinating stuff not nearly long enough


Guest Segment - Brian Hastings

[ ] Man of the moment
[ ] Never heard of him before this week
[ ] Ho hum another early 20s superstar
[ ] Would rather have heard Isuldur
[x] All of the above


Interview

[ ] Inspiring learned a lot
[x ] Interesting but went on too long


Sklansky Minute


[ ] Definitely will help my poker game
[ ] WTF
[x] Predictably different


Pokerstars Love

[ ] Not enough
[x] Enough



UB/Hellmuth Hate

[ ] Over the top
[ ] Enough
[x] Not enough


Overall Podcast

[ ] Best show ever
[x] Classic
[ ] fair to middling
[ ] Instant delete

Domda,

The fact that your very first post on 2+2 was two words 'Who's Bunner?' to a weekly checklist is so lol.

I Domda

About halfway through the episode so far, will listen to the rest later tonight.

MJ - I humbly request some sort of involvement when you decide to start teaching the Bourbon Appreciation classes.

On last week's Poker After Dark "Railbird Heaven Cash Game" there's a segment where Phil Ivey comments
"I like to lose so much that I can barely breathe. Thats when I'm happy, I'm addicted to that feeling."
The 2+2 podcast host doesn't seem to understand what this means and thinks it's crazy. He can’t understand this because he's not a lemon.
I know I am.
I know that some of you are lemons too.

To the non-lemons, think of this feeling as the need to smoke a joint right after your first test of finals knowing you have another test the following day. Think of it as the need to charm that girl at the other side of the bar to sleep with you knowing your girlfriend will know of this somehow someday.

Gambling real high knowing in the back of your head that you will lose is only an extension of this urge in your brain to put everything on the line and see if you still come out alive.
It’s a win-win situation for lemons. If you happen to win, you gain the knowledge that even you can beat the odds. But when you lose, aside from the money, it feels somehow not that bad because this is a subconscious reinforcement that you, like everyone else, are only human. Like you were meant to lose. Lemons find meaning not in rational logic, but in earthly pleasures.

I personally think it's the gruesome and animalistic nature that was once part of our past that has largely disappeared from the male gene (and FU “survival of the fittest”). This urge has been turned off by parents, school, books, and society. That's why I personally can't relate to a lot of people outside poker. I thought it was their dishonesty towards me at first. But as I grew up, I knew that he and I were different. Like we were from different worlds from something.

In a sentence, lemons look for the immediacy of risk and pleasure which must be followed by the completely opposite feeling of loss or pain. Lemons live for the fleeting moment of false security and ecstasy in vain.

I remember when I was a kid, I loved to do what people told me not to do. I enjoyed getting in trouble although I knew I was going to get whooped by my father. During or after college, I wanted to sleep with my female boss because it felt like the dual sensation of pleasure/trouble would always accompany me whenever I did so. It felt like pissing in my pants which always feels a bit relaxing and a bit uncomfortable.

As for Poker After Dark episode and in regards to Phil Ivey, I think Phil Ivey used this “defective nature,” as normal people would easily refer to as, to become a great gambler. He knows what people fear and he knows what gamblers subconsciously think. He plays by feel. That's why a well trained logical player isn't really likely to fare well vs. Phil Ivey, Isildur1, etc.

If you have a lemon inside of you, you and I should learn how to embrace it, not run away from it. I tried hard to be normal like all the others but the more I did, I felt out of state, just not myself and I hate that.
If you are a lemon, acknowledge it, and don’t deny it. Learn to train that part of you that others call defective because it's a rare commodity and a reminder of our humble beginnings before all the math science and rational thought came about.

Yoon
hoyayoon ftp

Al Pacino was great, as Walter Abrahms, in Two for the Money:
You're a lemon. Like a bad car. There is something... there is something inherently defective in you, and you, and you, and me, and all of us. We're all lemons. We look like everyone else, but what makes us different is our defect. See, most gamblers, when they go to gamble, they go to win. When we go to gamble, we go to lose. Subconsciously. Me, I never feel better than when they're raking the chips away; not bringing them in. And everyone here knows what I'm talking about. Hell, even when we win it's just a matter of time before we give it all back. But when we lose, that's another story. When we lose, and I'm talking about the kind of loss that makes your ******* pucker to the size of a decimal point - you know what I mean - You've just recreated the worst possible nightmare this side of malignant cancer, for the twentieth goddamn time; and you're standing there and you suddenly realise, Hey, I'm still... here. I'm still breathing. I'm still alive. Us lemons, we **** **** up all the time on purpose. Because we constantly need to remind ourselves we're alive. Gambling's not your problem. It's this ****ed up need to feel something. To convince yourself you exist. That's the problem.

jwasn't PA saying in the interview with phil gordon that 50M was the requisite bankroll for 500/1000 HU PLO, not 500M.

re. darvin moon's logic fail: no, the bluff ppl could hear what he was saying, as could we at home who were listening to the livestream (though it was impossible to discern). though ridic., it is still plausible that HE believed that it was true, though it's 99% likely he was just lying to his wife not look like he was blowing off his stack.

just listened. spectacular interview with doyle. Great ep!

haha great fkn show again, especially like part where adam said he dominated the league, mike and adam can you guys use your pull to find out if brian hastings needs like a personal slave or assistant, wash his car laugh at his jokes let me know

****ing disgrace calling michael jackson a homosexual pedophile

***** schwartz

LOL. That clip was not only in last weeks show, it was taken from an episode that is two years old. Had it not been a reeeally old clip, I agree, he clearly should have said 'Michael Jackson was...'

yeah, but you have to add "not that there's anything wrong with that." cover your ass imo.

Quite an inappropriate comment to make on a poker radio show, no matter when it was recorded. But hey it's your show so do as you please, I just hope you try not to offend too many of your listeners in the process.

I would be more civil in responding if you were more civil with your comments so I'll point out that you are free not to listen to the show.

Also, we were joking and I'm hardly the first to point out that he had some sick tendencies.

Started listening right now, at 3:53 A.M, being drunk and playing 6-max sngs. Does that make me a Moran?

Complete derail but are you actually
a) insinuating that Adam is in some kind of tiny minority of people who believe MJ was a a pedophile

b) upset because you are one of those that believes that once someone dies, they become perfect and posthumous references of any kind to their living indiscretions is inappropriate.

c) unaware that the original quote came from Norm MacDonald, one of the most off-colour comedians of the past 20 years, not Adam.

this is kinda off topic, but lol that Mr Jackson has the same initials as MJ.

Great great interview with Doyle.

Yeah the interview with Doyle was really A+.

Great show once again.
That 40 mins with Doyle felt like 4 mins...gotta get him back again when he's not playin' in a tournament.
Listening to the Hastings interview just another reminder that I was born 20 years too early lol....never would've finished University if I had the option to play online poker when I was 20.
As for the pesky Russians, I would say that you shouldn't give up trying to stem that red tide for the weekly freeroll just yet...there's gotta be a way to keep it to your actual listeners!!!
54

That Sklansky minute has been bugging me all day.

5-minute mile and 500 pound bench press is extremely difficult, but I'd bet that someday someone will do it.

Potential candidates:

1) someone like Mariusz Pudzianowski - 5-time worlds strongest man. He can probably bench over 650 lbs, so he can shed some upper body muscle and have a shot. He in particular among the strongman competitors, is tremendously agile - and you have to have a good amount of aerobic fitness to do well in the strongman competitions.

It would be a stretch, but he could just barely run the mile fast enough with the proper training and, say, 2 million dollars on the line.

2) a football player - defensive end, linebacker or most probably a running back.

I think the ideal candidate would be an extremely strong, shortish running back like Maurice Jones-Drew. He has an advantage in the bench press, as his shorter arms means he has to move the weight a shorter distance to bench it.

He is extremely fast, and so the only question would be to get the stamina to last a mile.

i hope this guy that sklanskey finds doesn't play poker. He'll be damn hard to out run if you beat him on a 1 outer!

How fast is the 5 minute mile? Is that world class or fast enough to win the state championship?

My biased guesses would be:

A swimmer, someone who specializes in short distance butterfly.


A defensive end

Darvin Moon's reason was exactly what I thought.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...1&postcount=11

Did you say you were going to mention some legal issue involving TwoPlusTwo?

really nice post. very interesting to read.